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Discussion: How Beck beat Beyoncé for Album of the Year!
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How Beck beat Beyoncé for Album of the Year!
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And though Beck is something of a critical darling, in this case, critics agreed. Beyoncé's Metacritic score is slightly higher than Morning Phase's score. If critical reception and popular opinion lies with Beyoncé, then how on Earth did Beck win?
But Beck's win shouldn't have been as much of a surprise as it was. The Grammy nomination and voting process is completely insane—and this year, that clearly favored Beck.
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Beck won because of how the other nominees split the vote:
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As journalist Chris Molanphy mentioned in this tweet, Beck had a clear runway to Album of the Year because his voting base wasn't divided. Voters who were going to vote for Beyoncé could have swung to Sam Smith or Pharrell, or even Ed Sheeran's camp. All of those nominees had voter bases that overlapped substantially.
We've seen this time and time again, historically. Whenever a single rock band is nominated for Album of the Year, that band takes home the trophy, more often than not.
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In 2011, Arcade Fire won Album of the Year over Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Eminem, and Lady Antebellum.
In 2000, Santana beat the Backstreet Boys, TLC, the Dixie Chicks, and Diana Krall.
From 1986–1988, a string of rock performances (U2, Phil Collins, Paul Simon) beat out pop stars like Whitney Houston, Barbra Streisand, Michael Jackson, Prince, and Sting.
Beck's win isn't surprising, even if it was disappointing for some.
Wait. How did Beck get nominated for Album of the Year?
Now is a good time to don your skeptic hat and remember that the Grammys are formally, openly rigged. The nominees for Album of the Year, though voted on by Recording Academy members, are ultimately chosen by a secret committee that the Recording Academy formed in the 1990s to review voters' choices.
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Beck won the popular vote fair and square because he had no genre competition. But whether he was nominated fairly (whether any artist was nominated fairly) is something to be skeptical about.
If you're looking for someone to blame for the Album of the Year Grammy, don't pick Beck, a masterful musician who has produced nine good albums in the past two decades and genuinely deserved to win this award at some point (just maybe not right now). Blame the anonymous committee that decides who gets to be a nominee for Album of the Year to begin with.
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Get Over It 
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Duh. I said this back in December.
And Beyonce would have still lost. Just look at her loss to Pharrell in Urban Album. Move on.
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wow that might be actually true.
It's unfair though.
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Originally posted by borntodiethisway
Move on.
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It's an explanation and a way to stop all that ranting as it will not change the bad that has already been done by the Grammy committee.
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"won over beyonce"  Even if that beck wasnt there i wasnt expecting that beyonce was gonna win. Sam smith or ed would won.
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Fact is Beyonce contents were not winning material. Great marketing I have to admit. Genius.
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But even without Beck, would Beyoncé have beaten Urban contemporary album winner GIRL by Pharrell Williams?
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I'm over it. On to the next. It happen. She still got 20 Grammys.
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Originally posted by Green
But even without Beck, would Beyoncé have beaten Urban contemporary album winner GIRL by Pharrell Williams?
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And Pop Vocal Album winner Sam Smith...
It wouldn't have been a Mumford & Sons/Arcade Fire case because they lost their genre-specific categories to artists who weren't nominated for AOTY.
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I listened to Morning Phase and it is, in my opinion, better than BEYONCÉ.
I think what people have to realize is that, sure, while BEYONCÉ did all these great things and had an awesome release strategy and made an impact, the Album of the Year is likely chosen on the quality of the musical content.
As we all know, music is very subjective and at the end of the day, the Grammy voters decided to go with Beck's album over Beyoncé's. It doesn't matter how much an album sells or how popular it is, it all comes down to how the voters subjectively see the work.
Y'all need to get over this a move on. BEYONCÉ not winning this Grammy doesn't take away from the fact that it's still a good album and that it will be remembered. As a monster, I can tell you that it was devastating seeing The Fame Monster lose to Arcade Fire, and we could have thrown all these sales and impact receipts like the Hive has been doing these past few days, but we moved on and we still look back and appreciate the album.
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Originally posted by Green
But even without Beck, would Beyoncé have beaten Urban contemporary album winner GIRL by Pharrell Williams?
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But who said it is compulsory to won in a genre category to win the big award finally? 
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SHE WAS NEVER GOING TO WIN.
Time to move the hell on.
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Originally posted by Rivington Reject
I listened to Morning Phase and it is, in my opinion, better than BEYONCÉ.
I think what people have to realize is that, sure, while BEYONCÉ did all these great things and had an awesome release strategy and made an impact, the Album of the Year is likely chosen on the quality of the musical content.
As we all know, music is very subjective and at the end of the day, the Grammy voters decided to go with Beck's album over Beyoncé's. It doesn't matter how much an album sells or how popular it is, it all comes down to how the voters subjectively see the work.
Y'all need to get over this a move on. BEYONCÉ not winning this Grammy doesn't take away from the fact that it's still a good album and that it will be remembered. As a monster, I can tell you that it was devastating seeing The Fame Monster loose to Arcade Fire, and we could have thrown all these sales and impact receipts like the Hive has been doing these past few days, but we move on and we still look back and appreciate the album.
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The article also talks about this. The Fame Monster should have won. 
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K. 
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We should have expected Beyonce to lose when Pharrell beat her (with his terrible album). Beyonce was probably somewhere in third or fourth, since Sam Smith performed very well in the major categories too. I think she should have won but it is what it is.
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