Its hilarious this is the same poster that deaperatly creates threads every month with huge essays proving Taylor isn't local, yet he's showing the same amount of Ignorance to Janet as a Taylor hater does

Yaaassss stan for the bop

Only thing i said is that Janet wasnt the "second biggest artist of the 90s" and she wasnt. How is that ignorance?

Now calling Shania a one album wonder WW seems more fitting of the word "ignorance" than whatever i said, especially because her "local!!!!111!" albums were doing as good in the US as Janet´s were with the whole world included

But Shania has a video with 56 million views more than Hey Jude, I guess From this Moment is more remembered then right?
Janet was more than a musician, she was an important cultural figure of her time who did more than just sing but addressed social and political issues like ignorance (where a lot still needs to be done if this thread is an indicator), poverty, political injustice, messages against homophobia and female sensual liberation.
Me using her iconic cover and image for reference wasn't anything out of line.
Anyway Janet keeps on inspiring new artists every year and this proves your "she's not as remembered" point moot.
It's clear that you just are ignorant of Janet's contributions to the music industry or are simply arguing just for the sake hence using icons like Shania Twain to make her legacy seem less than what it is, at the end of the day you are entitled to your opinion even if it's ignorant and misguided.



@T.C: I don't understand it too
I literally chuckled when I saw a Taylor fan calling Janet local

Janet is one of her main inspirations. She herself said it. So... Do the math.


Janet is levels above of T. Swift.

You brought up "WW" though. So it was relevant for me to reference those first two albums of hers. Of course COO was bigger than any Janet era, but in hits, touring, influence, acclaim and cultural relevance, Janet had the lead overall in the 90s.

Yeah, but by WW i mean the US included, as, you know, its a part of the world. I never said their US stats didnt count

And regarding the last part, yeah, you are right, she was bigger than Shania in those aspects!

EDIT: Either way, this discussion is silly. Janet was huge back in the day, i know it and i never ever said otherwise. I just got mad because i thought you were discrediting Shania

Never. Come On Over and Up! Are great albums. Nothing but love for Shania

It´s all good then

And sorry, i know i act a mess sometimes. It definitely is NOT my intention

Janet. Taylor is nothing compared to the queen

Janet

Janet jackson its not even close!

This generation people get caught up in the celebrity status more then the actual artist side of a artist which is sad

Do people actually think selling 3 million 99p digital tracks this day in age is more impressive then some artist selling 1 million tracks back then when a physical cost upto 3.99 a single?

Taylors successful but not even close to janet when it comes to cultural impact or importance

Janet is the blueprint for many female megastars (beyonce,JLo,rihanna etc)

Taylor>>>>>

Taylor.

Max (hello_world) please forgive me i am so sorry i love u please i swear to god that i regret doing it

I love how atrl cannot compare Taylor with her contemporary peers any more and have to resort to comparing her with legends. Janet is a legend, but you are comparing her entire career with Taylor who is only 25. Taylor is gonna be a legend too obviously and she will be much bigger than Janet cos Taylor is the dominant US artist and has been for more than 5 years. Janet never dominated in such fashion during her peak, which I remember well.

Taylor will be compared more to Madonna than Janet. Madonna was the biggest US female for the latter quarter of the 20th Century, although Madonna was not the biggest US act, that was Michael Jackson. There is no real historical comparison for Taylor's long US dominance, even for a man. Maybe Elvis in the 1950s? Taylor will be seen as the dominant US act for the first quarter of this Century, the Elvis of her time.

Janet was certainly influential, but we all know Taylor is going to be bigger when their respective careers are measured at the end. Janet was always overshadowed by her brother, Michael, who was a bigger star. There is no male act overshadowing Taylor Swift.

What is this mess? You're comparing the reviews of Taylor's first 5 to Janet's last 4? Janet debuted musically in 1982 and Metacritic didn't come into existence until 2000. That's two decades of her albums you ignored. You don't see how dumb that is? And please don't mention acclaim cuz Janet has her beat easily.

Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time
259- Rhythm Nation 1814
277- The Velvet Rope

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 200 Definitive Albums
87- Control
151- janet.

That's 4 consecutive albums with distinct acclaim. Those little Metacritic scores are cute for Taylor though.

I can't believe the Taylor stans are still trying it

Taylor can keep her successful YouTube videos while Janet remains the reason why the website was created and one of the main factors in why music videos are such a big deal nowadays.

Janet Jackson.

A true legend, which Taylor sadly is not (yet). Anyone trying to discredit Janet is just

A Taylor stan talking about worldwide stats? Let's not.

Youre going to compare one debut era (BOMT) by an artist who is practically the white mini Janet to someone who was already 10+ years into her career?

By using your method. Janet. is 6x platinum. No Madonna album in the 90s even went 5x platinum. Those other girls you listed aside from Whitney and Mariah (whom I mentioned) had like 2-3 hit singles which catapulted their albums. Janet's singles consistently went top 10 or #1 and her albums sold consistently as well.

Idk why you're bringing Cher into this. Cher came out of nowhere with that song. It's not like she was consistently slaughtering throughout the decade like Janet. Even so, Cher is a music legend, like Janet, so that only helps to solidify Janet as a legend and immensely better and more influential and iconic than Taylor Swift.