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Discussion: God and Science?
Member Since: 7/15/2012
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Originally posted by ToxDuris
I think religion is just the (very) easy way. To "believe" in science you actually have to read a lot and have te ability to analize and make conclusions. With religion you just have to believe that God created everything, plain easy.
No wonder why you find the most atheists in the most educated countries.
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Disagree. I already mentioned this but I believe a lot of people are atheists just because the idea of a God is too complex for them, and because religious organisations have too much stigma. They don't want to work hard enough to come to their own conclusion, so they just choose to not believe in God and say Science is the way because of "proof" (which they often don't understand or know about).
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Member Since: 5/20/2011
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Originally posted by Chill Bill
I'm already a Jew.
I just recognize that my religious beliefs have no place in a scientific lab.
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If you aren't under the banner that says "JESUS CHRIST" on it, you aren't under God's banner.
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Member Since: 5/20/2011
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Originally posted by ToxDuris
I think religion is just the (very) easy way. To "believe" in science you actually have to read a lot and have te ability to analize and make conclusions. With religion you just have to believe that God created everything, plain easy.
No wonder why you find the most atheists in the most educated countries.
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Christianity is not believing God created everything. Not sure what religion or faith you're talking about. Care to clarify?
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Member Since: 10/14/2010
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Originally posted by keshaspearsxo
Disagree. I already mentioned this but I believe a lot of people are atheists just because the idea of a God is too complex for them, and because religious organisations have too much stigma. They don't want to work hard enough to come to their own conclusion, so they just choose to not believe in God and say Science is the way because of "proof" (which they often don't understand or know about). |
What exactly is this "conclusion" people have to come to believe in god? 
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Member Since: 9/6/2012
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Originally posted by Miss Frizzle
Personally, I've never been able to believe science. Even as a kid, I knew better than to think we came from monkeys, or we came from an explosion, or wheyever else some random scientist threw out there.
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I don't comprehend how you cannot believe in the facts that support evolution and how we spring from an explosion, but you place your faith in a book about talking animals, people walking on water, the sea being parted, flying and fallen angels, wizards, raining food, water turning into blood and alcohol, reviving the dead, among other witchcraft occurrences. I am not saying that you cannot believe in those things, but don't state your disbelief of science on a basis of 'illogical' when most of scientific hypothesis has been backed by calculations and intense researching, and the things in The Bible are still a mystery. Your faith is pure and strong and I respect that, but it's just that - a faith of heart that cannot be proven until Jesus returns, according to you.
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Member Since: 10/14/2010
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Originally posted by Miss Frizzle
Christianity is not believing God created everything. Not sure what religion or faith you're talking about. Care to clarify?
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genes...tion_narrative
How old are you? Do you even know what are we talking about?
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Originally posted by Miss Frizzle
It's driving you crazy isn't it - That I don't believe what you believe? And that I don't agree with you. Funny how that works. You want me to accept what YOU believe and where you put YOUR faith, yet you aren't accepting what I believe in and where I put my faith. You are intolerant
I don't have to accept science in the same way you do.
You choose to believe and put your faith in science books
I put my faith in Jesus and The Bible. That's all there is to it
My view is just as valid as yours. You can't discredit me because we don't agree. I'm holding tight to my beliefs just like you are. But don't expect me to bend to yours of you ain't bending to mine.
Some people turn to The Bible for answers, like me, and I receive them by faith
You turn to science and what man has decided is the best creation theory. Which yall still can't prove. But you have faith in it
You see?
You're putting blind faith into science just like I'm putting blind faith into God and The Bible, but guess what? We will both see what happens when Jesus comes back and whether or not our faith paid off.
I'd rather bet my chances on Jesus and The Bible, than a science book and atheist scientists with an agenda
God bless
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You do not put 'faith' in science you look at science and agree with it because it the truth it is factual unlike belief and faith in God which is substantiated by exactly no evidence unlike science. You are incredibly ignorant and I fear for your lack of intelligence.
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Also I am 100% sick of people saying 'I believe in evolution' - evolution is not something you 'believe' in it's something you accept as the reason for your existence because it is fact, it is how we are here and if you would rather place your religious agenda ahead of evolution as a more important 'reason' for your existence then do not engage in debates.
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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i really dont believe there was a big bang. i think time, space and God always existed. i feel as though its beyond our comprehension to understand these things. 
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Originally posted by Reza
i really dont believe there was a big bang. i think time, space and God always existed. i feel as though its beyond our comprehension to understand these things. |
Absolutely ridiculous. You feel like because you don't understand certain things that you shouldn't try to understand these things. Blissful ignorance is what you prefer? How can you say that there wasn't a big bang which there is an incredible amount of growing evidence for but say that God always existed which there is no evidence for. There seems to be a huge logical hole missing.
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Member Since: 5/20/2011
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Originally posted by Kavish
I don't comprehend how you cannot believe in the facts that support evolution and how we spring from an explosion, but you place your faith in a book about talking animals, people walking on water, the sea being parted, flying and fallen angels, wizards, raining food, water turning into blood and alcohol, reviving the dead, among other witchcraft occurrences. I am not saying that you cannot believe in those things, but don't state your disbelief of science on a basis of 'illogical' when most of scientific hypothesis has been backed by calculations and intense researching, and the things in The Bible are still a mystery. Your faith is pure and strong and I respect that, but it's just that - a faith of heart that cannot be proven until Jesus returns, according to you.
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when we think of it in human logic, it seems crazy, doesn't it? It's crazy to me that someone can believe that everything came from a big explosion, bc where did the explosion come fm? What caused the explosion? How was there even an ability for there to even be an explosion to create everything? I respect that people choose to believe that if they want. God gave us all the ability to believe what we want. That's our free will.
Please don't compare witchcraft to miracles, otherwise I will not continue to debate with you. Witches do the work of Satan.
When's the last time you saw a witch bring the dead back to life? Part a sea/ocean? Turn water into wine? Walk on water? A talking donkey?? Witches exist TODAY, yet they ain't doing none of that. Although, sorcerers in Biblical times could actually perform dark magic, but it was of Satan, not God
In Egypt, the Pharoah had a magician that actually turned his staff into a snake, however God was working through Moses, and turned his staff into a snake and it ATE the magicians snake! Remember though, the magician was evil, and had weak "magic" that could not compare to the power of God
I'm getting OT lol I would love to go further off topic but don't want the thread to be locked 
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by Miss Frizzle
If you aren't under the banner that says "JESUS CHRIST" on it, you aren't under God's banner.
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Jews denied Jesus, thus denying God, so its no surprise you consider God superstition. You're just like your ancestors.
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So much for tolerating others' beliefs, huh? 
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Member Since: 5/20/2011
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Originally posted by artpop
You do not put 'faith' in science you look at science and agree with it because it the truth it is factual unlike belief and faith in God which is substantiated by exactly no evidence unlike science. You are incredibly ignorant and I fear for your lack of intelligence.
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You have no facts and proof, for anything in science other than how the earth and everything in it was designed and how it works, so please do not call me ignorant and insult my intelligence. Have I insulted you?
No, so don't insult me please. Thx
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Member Since: 7/15/2012
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Originally posted by ToxDuris
What exactly is this "conclusion" people have to come to believe in god? |
Create their own theories about how the universe works.. whether or not God exists, and whatever they want to believe in. Just forming something of their own
Whenever I ask someone if they believe in God they're like "I don't know"... like how can you not know? People don't think about this stuff enough and are kinda ignorant.
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Member Since: 9/6/2012
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Originally posted by Miss Frizzle
when we think of it in human logic, it seems crazy, doesn't it? It's crazy to me that someone can believe that everything came from a big explosion, bc where did the explosion come fm? What caused the explosion? How was there even an ability for there to even be an explosion to create everything? I respect that people choose to believe that if they want. God gave us all the ability to believe what we want. That's our free will.
Please don't compare witchcraft to miracles, otherwise I will not continue to debate with you. Witches do the work of Satan.
When's the last time you saw a witch bring the dead back to life? Part a sea/ocean? Turn water into wine? Walk on water? A talking donkey?? Witches exist TODAY, yet they ain't doing none of that. Although, sorcerers in Biblical times could actually perform dark magic, but it was of Satan, not God
In Egypt, the Pharoah had a magician that actually turned his staff into a snake, however God was working through Moses, and turned his staff into a snake and it ATE the magicians snake! Remember though, the magician was evil, and had weak "magic" that could not compare to the power of God
I'm getting OT lol I would love to go further off topic but don't want the thread to be locked |
Works of witches or works of God, witchcraft or miracles, those occurrences are still not believable and logical to me - and they all happened according to the Bible.
Evolution has been studied for years for Science to reach the conclusion of us being evolved species. Same can be said about the Big Bang. I have read the Bible for me to conclude in not believing in it. But have you gone through Science and looked at the facts that support the things you perceive as unbelievable? Unlike science, what is stated in the Bible only requires my faith, whereas science show you proof or theories that make sense when we look at the bigger picture.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Miss Frizzle
when we think of it in human logic, it seems crazy, doesn't it? It's crazy to me that someone can believe that everything came from a big explosion, bc where did the explosion come fm? What caused the explosion? How was there even an ability for there to even be an explosion to create everything? I respect that people choose to believe that if they want. God gave us all the ability to believe what we want. That's our free will.
Please don't compare witchcraft to miracles, otherwise I will not continue to debate with you. Witches do the work of Satan.
When's the last time you saw a witch bring the dead back to life? Part a sea/ocean? Turn water into wine? Walk on water? A talking donkey?? Witches exist TODAY, yet they ain't doing none of that. Although, sorcerers in Biblical times could actually perform dark magic, but it was of Satan, not God
In Egypt, the Pharoah had a magician that actually turned his staff into a snake, however God was working through Moses, and turned his staff into a snake and it ATE the magicians snake! Remember though, the magician was evil, and had weak "magic" that could not compare to the power of God
I'm getting OT lol I would love to go further off topic but don't want the thread to be locked |
Are you for real? 
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Member Since: 1/5/2014
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I believe in the existence of a spiritual power but religions in general are the piTs.
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