Originally posted by borntodiethisway

I'm sorry you can't compare a chicken to a human life.

Originally posted by ALIEN

so why the double standard?

Originally posted by bleuwaffle

That's because vegetarians are assholes. Vegans >>>>

Originally posted by bleuwaffle

Preventing the murder of a fellow living being isn't a lifestyle choice ffs, it's the only logical way of thinking. Like

Originally posted by ALIEN

apart from experiencing pain and pleasure, farm animals are capable of feeling fear as well. so imagine the terror that must go inside their brains seeing everyone around them die. we treat with compassion dogs, cats, birds and other animals that are not hostile with us. so why the double standard?

Originally posted by TheNight

I think you're thinking of us like those religious people that go door to door trying to convert people, which isn't accurate. First, they are trying to get people to believe in something that, for all intents and purposes, is grounded in faith, not fact. On the other hand, there is observable scientific evidence to back up our claims. We're not asking you to just believe in our cause from our good word - we're giving you actual proof of it. Secondly, we're not just trying to "convert" people just to get more people in our group or to make it look better - we're trying to make a serious, tangible, positive change in our world that will have lasting good effects on future generations of nearly every species. This is beyond just continuing a set of beliefs and traditions - it's the future of our planet we're talking about.

In person, it usually plays out a lot different. I for one could never be as open as I am on here, simply because I'm too shy and timid with strangers in person. And when I do talk about it, it's usually in a much more tactful and positive perspective, because I for one do understand that you're not gonna get anyone's attention or change their mind through negativity or yelling at them for what they're doing wrong. If those are the kinds of vegans/vegetarians, you're experiencing, then I'm truly sorry. Just know that their hearts are in a good place, but their burning passion (and the anger that naturally comes with it) is blinding their judgement in certain areas.

Originally posted by cloudinthesky

Humans are the dominant species on earth and eating meat is a natural thing. Many animals do it (likewise, many animals do not). If humans were not the smartest, most dominant species, animals would not hesitate to devour us with no thought behind it (in fact, many wild animals do just that to humans now). That's just the circle of life, that's how it goes.

You can argue that the way the animals are treated before being killed is wrong, and I would agree with that to some extent. But you can't expect every human to stop eating meat bc it's cruel to animals, yet those animals also kill and eat meat. Also, I wouldn't say there's much of a double standard. People eat dogs, cats, birds and other non-hostile animals as well. It's all culturally dependent.



Unfortunately, most of the vegan/vegetarians I've come across irl have been over the top smug and pompous but I'm well aware you're not all like that. No worries. It's nice to have a mature discussion about it without name calling.

I know their hearts are in a good place, but again, couldn't you say the same about anyone who's passionate about their beliefs, whether they're good or bad? There's scientific "evidence" for just about everything, and counter studies that prove the exact opposite. There is evidence that meat is good for you too. Regardless of scientific evidence, it's nobody's business what other people put in their body. Just like it's nobody's business who someone sleeps with, or what someone puts their faith in. There is evidence in favor of being straight, of being gay, of growing a beard, of shaving your face, and the list goes on and on. It's all up to your own worldview, and you can't force that on other people.

And not everyone will agree that a chicken or an ant's life holds equal weight to that of a human's. It may be sad to think about but... You'll never be able to stop people from doing something they've done since the beginning of recorded history. Why not fight for better breeding practices and better treatment of these specific animals that are bred for consumption instead of attacking people for doing something natural (I'm not directing this at you specifically, just the super hardcore vege/vegans)? I just feel like we should all be more respectful of others' life choices. Whether you agree with them or not, as long as they're not harming and imposing it on others then we should mind our own business.

Originally posted by TheNight

If one wishes to engage in a harmful habit, as you're implying, who am I to stop them? It's not my life, nor do I have the right to stop them - as long as it doesn't infringe on others. The problem here is that eating meat does transcend just the person doing so.

Originally posted by TheNight

we as a society continue in our wrong, unsustainable, unhealthy habit

Originally posted by Goosey

So... you are going to scold people for eating meat. This is why many people don't like vegetarians.



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