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Discussion: Do you understand the Big Bang?
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Do you understand the Big Bang?
I seriously don't get it, for me it's the main reason I'm a believer. Does anyone actually understand how the Big Bang happened? We basically understand what it was, but do any of y'all actually know how the **** that **** happened? 
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Do you know what a black hole is?
Do you know what a white hole is in theory, to support the plausibility of The Big Bang?
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The Big Bang surely can't be any more obscure than an omnipresent being that's just "always been there" as to have a scapegoat to the question of "who invented God".
Anyway, from what I understand, the right mixture of chemicals under the right conditions just resulted in a huge bang that created the universe. I assume that this is only talking about our solar system, because new galaxies are still being created out in space. That alone makes the Big Bang theory more believable than any religious deity to me.
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The Big Bang is an incomplete theory. Right now, it is the prevailing model for the beginning of our universe. But honestly, there's a large chance that it is not correct. Many scientists, for example, believe in the many-worlds theory which is completely different. Some portions of the Big Bang are perfectly believable and the evidence is there, but we have not come close to really finding out the truth about the universe.
However, I have to emphasize that it is the best that we can do so far. The portions of the Big Bang that have been proven true are more convincing to me than any other explanation.
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Originally posted by Maiko
Do you know what a black hole is?
Do you know what a white hole is in theory, to support the plausibility of The Big Bang?
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You're so smart 
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yes but I don't believe it ever happened
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I understand the theory as far as everything immediately after the Big Bang is concerned, however since science is yet to conclusively discover what existed (if anything) before that singularity I'm still a little unsatisfied with it as a theory as a whole.
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Originally posted by Maiko
Do you know what a black hole is?
Do you know what a white hole is in theory, to support the plausibility of The Big Bang?
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Yes, no. 
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Originally posted by Hugamari
The Big Bang surely can't be any more obscure than an omnipresent being that's just "always been there" as to have a scapegoat to the question of "who invented God".
Anyway, from what I understand, the right mixture of chemicals under the right conditions just resulted in a huge bang that created the universe. I assume that this is only talking about our solar system, because new galaxies are still being created out in space. That alone makes the Big Bang theory more believable than any religious deity to me.
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It's more plausible than my understanding of the Big Bang. Thanks for the religious respect, though.
Where did these chemicals come from then? I get the basic story but my two main questions are 'where did the original matter come from' and 'what causes the expansion'. Maybe add in 'what was there before the Big Bang'.
The steady state theory sounded more realistic to me, no one's ever explained why that was ruled out.
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Originally posted by hello_world
Yes, no.
It's more plausible than my understanding of the Big Bang. Thanks for the religious respect, though.
Where did these chemicals come from then? I get the basic story but my two main questions are 'where did the original matter come from' and 'what causes the expansion'. Maybe add in 'what was there before the Big Bang'.
The steady state theory sounded more realistic to me, no one's ever explained why that was ruled out. |
Well, as someone stated above, the theory isn't exactly full, which is why it's a theory. There is, however, more evidence for it. Most of the time when I see arguments for there being a deity, it's really just things science hasn't (yet) explained.
What also gets me is, if there is an omnipresent, all-powerful creator, which religion is right? It was a widely-held belief not that long ago that there were multiple deities, and being a monotheist was blasphemous. Who is to say they weren't right? What if none of them are right? I guess that's a topic for a different thread.
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I do know that there was an explosion in the galaxy which led to that different chemical substances got together and created our planet, Earth. I think that was called Nebulosa or something lmao. It then led to an evolution, that started with bacterias which later became blue-green bacterias, which later developed to fishes. Our earth was created 4,6 billion years ago (according to science men), but there wasn't any oxygen until the blue-green bacterias developed. 
I'm 14.
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To people who ask 'what happened before the Big Bang?', the answer might be nothing. It is a possibility that our universe began at the moment of the Big Bang. For us, that is when time and space were created. This is why the theory of a multiverse pops up sometimes. Maybe our universe popped up, but other universes also exist so there would have been things before the Big Bang, just not visible or discoverable to us because they occurred in different universes.
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Originally posted by alexanderao
To people who ask 'what happened before the Big Bang?', the answer might be nothing. It is a possibility that our universe began at the moment of the Big Bang. For us, that is when time and space were created. This is why the theory of a multiverse pops up sometimes. Maybe our universe popped up, but other universes also exist so there would have been things before the Big Bang, just not visible or discoverable to us because they occurred in different universes.
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We weren't created as soon as our planet Earth was created though 
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Originally posted by Hugamari
Well, as someone stated above, the theory isn't exactly full, which is why it's a theory. There is, however, more evidence for it. Most of the time when I see arguments for there being a deity, it's really just things science hasn't (yet) explained.
What also gets me is, if there is an omnipresent, all-powerful creator, which religion is right? It was a widely-held belief not that long ago that there were multiple deities, and being a monotheist was blasphemous. Who is to say they weren't right? What if none of them are right? I guess that's a topic for a different thread.
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That's kinda the point. It's also just a matter of faith sometimes. It isn't always rational but it's a powerful thing. Either way, I don't see religion as a bad thing because it generally just promotes communal spirit and morals.
I think all ideas of God would be the same being, and if He were for example Allah, he wouldn't be that pissed because I was worshipping him anyway but with different terminology.
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Originally posted by hello_world
That's kinda the point. It's also just a matter of faith sometimes. It isn't always rational but it's a powerful thing. Either way, I don't see religion as a bad thing because it generally just promotes communal spirit and morals.
I think all ideas of God would be the same being, and if He were for example Allah, he wouldn't be that pissed because I was worshipping him anyway but with different terminology.
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Exactly. I do worship my God, but still believe in science.
I love science
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Originally posted by Aiiman
We weren't created as soon as our planet Earth was created though |
That isn't what he was saying at all 
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Originally posted by Hugamari
The Big Bang surely can't be any more obscure than an omnipresent being that's just "always been there" as to have a scapegoat to the question of "who invented God".
Anyway, from what I understand, the right mixture of chemicals under the right conditions just resulted in a huge bang that created the universe. I assume that this is only talking about our solar system, because new galaxies are still being created out in space. That alone makes the Big Bang theory more believable than any religious deity to me.
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not really though. time and space has always existed. there was no moment when everything just happened. its even beyond human comprehension to understand this.
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Originally posted by Callum
That isn't what he was saying at all |
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Maybe our universe popped up, but other universes also exist so there would have been things before the Big Bang, just not visible or discoverable to us because they occurred in different universes.
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Just wanted to say that even if Earth was created we weren't in it immediately. It took a LONG time. No need to hate, just because I'm smarter than you. 
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