Born this way

You guys act like Pop fans aren't pretentious too when they trash anything that's a little obscure for their liking. Every type of fan of any kind of music genre uses the term "real music" to trash on another and it's silly.

basically.

I think it's very telling how hopeless we are as a species when we find ways to separate ourselves and call ourselves superior over something as benign as music

Music is art, but it's a business too. Labels will craft what they think will sell. People want to get in on the money. Dad-rock music snobs need to keep this in mind when they criticize other genres. At the end of the day, people still have bills to pay and mouths to feed. As much as rap gets disrespected, a lot of rappers, regardless of how mediocre, are just trying to break out of poverty. Almost all the big rappers like Jay-Z, P. Diddy, even 2 Chainz and Rick Ross, have.

I'm glad we can listen to music from many other generations. It's always funny when people say they wish they were born in/could go back to the 60s, 70s, etc, for real music. They don't know how good they have it now, and how much harder life was back then.

YOU BETTAH DRAG THE LESSERSSSSS!!! YAS

What I find in music is just something that is thought out well at the least. Whether it be some SICK production or very very clever lyrics. There needs to be some thought put into it. I remember reading a certain piece from someone saying something like: "Maybe the music we have today with most of the blunt lyrics and cussing is because of artists not being scared of making that exact connection with the audience" I am guessing that is what music has evolved to. I think we focus more on the voice than anything. If someone with a terrible voice plans to sing as their career, they better get better at singing. If someone wants to rap for the rest of their lives they better improve at rapping. It just depends on the artist. NO matter how good the production is SOMETIMES people want good music. It is how you deliver the song. The song could be absolutely gross but if you can serve that grossness with a cup of tea, then GO FOR IT

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not Little mosters saying Gags makes real music HAHAHAA!!!!

If I said aloud to someone that "Gaga makes real music " I would get LAUGHED AT & would get told I have no taste in music & that I should visit a doctor

Gaga's generic trashy-ass music is why people hate on female solo pop artists.

Seethe I guess.

Not really...when it comes to trash/not real music discussions with people... Gaga's name along with Bieber is right there

Anything that's written from someone's mind and heart with the simple goal of expressing one's self, feelings, emotions etc. and definitely NOT with the only thought of it being a radio hit.
Take that as you wish

A song can still be good regardless and I agree, I hate when someone **** talks Pop Music etc. and saying "real music". But someone like Dr Luke knowing a song will be a hit before it's even released and the only purpose of that song, its theme lyrics etc. being to appeal to wide audiences and make money... that's not making music, srry.

that's exactly what this thread is about tho, people like you Slay I guess

not @ you shading iggy like that

I think you should check out U2's 90s work, it's much more experimental than their big 80s hits and far from bland.

O/T: It's just a term used to belittle other's musical tastes.

There's no such thing as "real music", I wish people would finally stop using that pretentious ass expression. Every kind of music is "real" music if you will.

Thinking about it, this is very much true.

Ask a 16 years old boy with a Pink Floyd shirt.