Originally posted by GrandMomCookies

My specific issues with cultural appropriation is that 1. The people who are usually the BIGGEST offenders of erasure, have a sense of entitlement that goes beyond anything I have ever seen. That's my problem with Iggy. If you love hip-hop then rap to your hearts content but don't make it seem like you automatically BELONG here and everyone is supposed to let you go on about your merry little way and be titled the "queen" of this and sweep the awards, etc. It doesn't work like that. You have hip-hop artists that put their very souls into their music and they are not handed anything. Nobody owes you a spot; you HAVE to earn it. If Nicki gotta get out here and grind, if Kim gotta get out here and grind, if Foxy gotta get out here and grind, why should Iggy be able to come in a get praise for mediocre work? Where are her mixtapes that she pushed underground and her stories of struggle and plight that would grant her the credibility to rap about the make believe things that she spits?

Which leads to my next point. Why is that the black artists that are already marginalized, scrutinized, demonized, and flat-out disrespected not allowed the same leisure when crossing over? I mean, these artists have to damn near sell their souls to break pop radio and lord forbid they even attempt to submit ANYTHING to the general Grammy categories. Lord forbid, they try to top one of these ******** ass lists. I mean, the Grammy's ONLY started even airing hip-hop categories once Eminem hit the scene and became a candidate for one. Before that hip-hop was not even important enough to be shown on tv with the rest of the categories.

My best example of this unfairness is Beyonce. While she is not hip-hop in the sense of a rapper, she is a black girl that mainly makes R & B music. While she received pop love "sporadically" throughout her career with DC and solo, it took IASF to actually put her in the same "ranks" as the other pop girls although she had the same consistency throughout her ENTIRE career. Its ridiculous because she has ALWAYS been superior but she had to work 1000 times as hard. She never took those extended breaks and public meltdowns like the other pop girls. She was not afforded that luxury.

And even when she was awarded for the artistic excellence of IASF, they just could't let her be "the only one" so they IMMEDIATELY awarded Adele her 6 in a night. IASF was Beyonce's 7th studio album and it took that long plus 14 years for her to get the recognition and Adele as relatively a new comer gets the SAME reception for arguably the same quality of work. Then they turn right around and snub "4" when it was again, SUPERIOR to mostly everything that dropped that year. Then they may as well had of snubbed SF and although she got 6 nominations, she should have had more. There has not been an album with the same type of consistency and impact since Thriller but she is put on the back burner. She had record labels considering dropping their marketing departments all together because of the way SF dropped but she is still not given the credit. The bigger issue will become apparent when we see how many she walks away with. How can IASF get 10 noms and SF didn't? Because Beyonce had to damn near kill herself doing promo, made a relatively ALL pop album, and be 100x better than everyone else. She damn near had to give her right arm for the recognition when she was ALWAYS better. Even when IASF had the biggest night at the Grammy's, who did the headlines go to? Taylor Swift. Why? Because although Beyonce won more, it had that undertone of "**** you" still. DONT give me that MJ ******** because after they gave him his success what they say " we made you ***** and we going break you " and they did that until God said come home my angel

Originally posted by GrandMomCookies

My specific issues with cultural appropriation is that 1. The people who are usually the BIGGEST offenders of erasure, have a sense of entitlement that goes beyond anything I have ever seen. That's my problem with Iggy. If you love hip-hop then rap to your hearts content but don't make it seem like you automatically BELONG here and everyone is supposed to let you go on about your merry little way and be titled the "queen" of this and sweep the awards, etc. It doesn't work like that. You have hip-hop artists that put their very souls into their music and they are not handed anything. Nobody owes you a spot; you HAVE to earn it. If Nicki gotta get out here and grind, if Kim gotta get out here and grind, if Foxy gotta get out here and grind, why should Iggy be able to come in a get praise for mediocre work? Where are her mixtapes that she pushed underground and her stories of struggle and plight that would grant her the credibility to rap about the make believe things that she spits?

Which leads to my next point. Why is that the black artists that are already marginalized, scrutinized, demonized, and flat-out disrespected not allowed the same leisure when crossing over? I mean, these artists have to damn near sell their souls to break pop radio and lord forbid they even attempt to submit ANYTHING to the general Grammy categories. Lord forbid, they try to top one of these ******** ass lists. I mean, the Grammy's ONLY started even airing hip-hop categories once Eminem hit the scene and became a candidate for one. Before that hip-hop was not even important enough to be shown on tv with the rest of the categories.

My best example of this unfairness is Beyonce. While she is not hip-hop in the sense of a rapper, she is a black girl that mainly makes R & B music. While she received pop love "sporadically" throughout her career with DC and solo, it took IASF to actually put her in the same "ranks" as the other pop girls although she had the same consistency throughout her ENTIRE career. Its ridiculous because she has ALWAYS been superior but she had to work 1000 times as hard. She never took those extended breaks and public meltdowns like the other pop girls. She was not afforded that luxury.

And even when she was awarded for the artistic excellence of IASF, they just could't let her be "the only one" so they IMMEDIATELY awarded Adele her 6 in a night. IASF was Beyonce's 7th studio album and it took that long plus 14 years for her to get the recognition and Adele as relatively a new comer gets the SAME reception for arguably the same quality of work. Then they turn right around and snub "4" when it was again, SUPERIOR to mostly everything that dropped that year. Then they may as well had of snubbed SF and although she got 6 nominations, she should have had more. There has not been an album with the same type of consistency and impact since Thriller but she is put on the back burner. She had record labels considering dropping their marketing departments all together because of the way SF dropped but she is still not given the credit. The bigger issue will become apparent when we see how many she walks away with. How can IASF get 10 noms and SF didn't? Because Beyonce had to damn near kill herself doing promo, made a relatively ALL pop album, and be 100x better than everyone else. She damn near had to give her right arm for the recognition when she was ALWAYS better. Even when IASF had the biggest night at the Grammy's, who did the headlines go to? Taylor Swift. Why? Because although Beyonce won more, it had that undertone of "**** you" still. DONT give me that MJ ******** because after they gave him his success what they say " we made you ***** and we going break you " and they did that until God said come home my angel

Originally posted by GrandMomCookies

I will not work my ass off to compare to white mediocrity !!!!!!

I'm mother ****ing BLACK Excellence ! Black excellence and white trash is being compared and I hate it especially in the media ! Like
To put it simply for every black ghetto there's 10 trailer parks full of poor uneducated white people with drug dealers and welfare queens.

Like you only see a few depictions of that like Honey Boo Boo's family. But the reality is those kind of white people aren't unique or rare or unordinary, they actually make up a lot of the white population.

Originally posted by Igrt

I'm serious about the Stocks and Bonds

Even if you work at McDonald's,ask someone there how YOU can take ownership in your company.If you're in school,DEFINITELY invest.I ain't the most financially literate,but dammit,we need to BOOK it down to Edward Jones, Scottrade,HELL,even Wells Fargo.Dammit if I wasn't so introverted, I would go to Business school.

Originally posted by Deuces

Tell it. We are black excellence, we are black culture. Excellence is our culture.



!!!

I'm so here for this but priorities are a mess in our community.

Originally posted by Teezy

Stocks and bonds are volatile and risky nowadays, especially for people who don't have sufficient income. It's not just a "our community is a mess" thing...

You don't see many young people of ANY color investing forreal.

Originally posted by GrandMomCookies

How can we invest when we don't got **** to start with

It's so many things that we have to overcome yo it's a shame

Originally posted by Teezy

Stocks and bonds are volatile and risky nowadays, especially for people who don't have sufficient income. It's not just a "our community is a mess" thing...

You don't see many young people of ANY color investing forreal.

Originally posted by GrandMomCookies

Let me rant a bit about smudging

My problem is a thief like Elvis being the King Of Rock n' Roll and nobody remembering that Rock n' Roll was invented by black people. That so little people nowadays remember a Chuck Berry.
I don't like the fact that they are so quick to praise a white person who has a "black" person voice. If they liked black voices so badly, why don't they buy black people's albums? Who they have to wait for someone to be white with a black voice making black music to buy? How don't they understand the racial prejudice behind that? Why is a black voice only to be praised when the person it comes out of is white?
Why is it that Rap doesn't sell much but the first white male that can break that market automatically becomes a legend and sells albums by millions?
How come they feel the need t appropriate every single music we invent : Rock n' Roll, Jazz, Blues, Soul, Disco, Techno, RnB and lately Hip Hop.


I remember during an interview for Cadillac Records when Beyonce straight said Muddy Waters was the King of R&R, and not Elvis. I got my LIFE.
And please don't get me started about the Kardashians and how they can conjure up all types of ********. This has to do with cultural appropriation too because Kim and the white media literally CREATES **** to draw the comparisons between her and Beyonce. They have NOTHING in common. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. But you have mags, new shows, publications, etc. putting them in the same ranks. They are not even in the same ****ing industry. They have nothing in common. They have nothing in common. They have nothing in common. Anything to diminish Beyonce's impact.

When Kim took the picture of herself with those mannequins MOCKING Solange's wedding photos the VERY next day after the wedding, how her mother posted a ****ing picture with their family in all white the SAME ****ing day that Solange's wedding pics hit the internet was so obvious! Its cultural smudging. It's like **** can we have any ****ing thing? Y'all gotta have this **** TOO? Damn, y'all gotta take away the mutha****ing MOMENT? FUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKK!

Originally posted by Big Smoke

When ****** stop thinkin like ******, then **** will change.