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Discussion: #BlackDon'tCrack (Unless it's Chapped)
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Originally posted by GrandMomCookies
Coming out the closet is a choice it's nothing you have to do !
Getting raped is a whole different story that's something that you should come out and say
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I agree. Molestation as a child is different from rape as an adult too. You are afraid to say things and afraid of older people.
Being raped by a man as an adult is not the same thing and shouldn't effect you the same way as molestation as a child, which people do commonly keep quiet about over fear.
These women had nothing to fear here, and could of gotten this dude taken care of before I was born.
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Have you been raped? So how can you even speak on how someone should feel?
Also Janice Dickinson tried to come out with this 10 years ago. So it's not something all of a sudden.
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Originally posted by Maiko
And again, this only makes me more disdainful of the women. If he raped 30 women beginning 50 years ago, someone should of said something about, sorry. I cannot yet understand how one can't muster up something inside of them to say something about a very high profile monster before he rapes someone else.
**** I know that if Bill Cosby raped me I'm gonna say something to somebody. I've had people that were relatively close to me experience sexual crimes, they all sad something quickly and things were rectified, so I can't imagine 30 women choosing to be silent about it.
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I understand your point, I really do. I would like to think that if I was raped I would say something as soon as possible. But in their defense, many of them wanted to come out sooner but they were going to lose everything. For example, one of the women (the playboy bunny) told her supervisor but Bill was best friends with Hugh Hefner and her supervisor told her to "shut her mouth" or she would get fired and blacklisted. And the woman who tried to put it in her biography wasn't going to get her book published and would've gotten sued if she revealed it to the public. I think it heightens the situation when you're dealing with one of the most powerful, beloved men in the industry.
For everyone's sake, I really hope they're all lying but some of the women (such as Beverly Johnson) have no reason to lie and their stories have too many similar occurrences. If it's true, I wish they would've revealed it sooner, perhaps when he was at his peak. But he will get his punishment when it's all said and done.
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Originally posted by GrandMomCookies
Coming out the closet is a choice it's nothing you have to do !
Getting raped is a whole different story that's something that you should come out and say
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They are different in severity but comparable in the way that you can take both of them to the grave. You don't HAVE to tell anyone you've been raped, you see these women lived with it for 30 years. Both are hard things for people to admit and both have the potential to create backlash which is why I compared them.
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LMAO @ this whole convo.
If Bill Cosby raped those women, he deserves to be vilified. White or black. Drugging and raping 30+ women is inexcusable. Sorry.
And Bill Cosby was one of the most powerful figures in the industry. They were all obviously gonna get blackballed if they said a word.
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Originally posted by borntodiethisway
Have you been raped? So how can you even speak on how someone should feel?
Also Janice Dickinson tried to come out with this 10 years ago. So it's not something all of a sudden.
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As a man, or I should say as a human being, it's hard for me to tell a rape victim how they should feel or act in that situation. I don't really have that right. That's like a white person telling me how to respond to racism. Everyone handles things in their own way.
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Bill Cosby always seemed like a shoe shining coon (my new fave expression). He said he agreed with the Zimmerman verdict. GET HA!
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nnn I think it was Teezy who I remember saying the same white people who were supporting Bill when he was scolding the Black community are now dropping his ass. And yet he wants the Black media to "remain neutral" 
What's the matter? Have the white journalists turned their back on you during your time of need?
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Originally posted by Maiko
And again, this only makes me more disdainful of the women. If he raped 30 women beginning 50 years ago, someone should of said something about, sorry. I cannot yet understand how one can't muster up something inside of them to say something about a very high profile monster before he rapes someone else.
**** I know that if Bill Cosby raped me I'm gonna say something to somebody. I've had people that were relatively close to me experience sexual crimes, they all sad something quickly and things were rectified, so I can't imagine 30 women choosing to be silent about it.
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Have y'all heard about the Jimmy Saville case in the UK? He was a white version of Cosby in a way, and the same thing happened, but with young girls/women. People did NOT talk about sexual assault/molestation/rape back then. It was a hush-hush thing, and people never believed the victims, as the believed in the 'goodness' of the icon who supposedly did the horrid act. This was a culture, and the victims were fully aware of that.
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Bill's always been a cheater that's public knowledge people forgot about. His affairs became a scandal in the 90's as well as paying off a woman who claimed to be his daughter. He couldn't keep track of all the hush money he was shelling out and when the DNA proved she wasn't his daughter she went to jail.98% of reported rapes are true, only 2% are false, which is lower than false reports in every other type of crime. as stated by the FBI.
I wasn't saying bill didn't do it but the closet thing J's a reach who you ****ing is your choice to kept to your self
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Originally posted by MM3
nnn I think it was Teezy who I remember saying the same white people who were supporting Bill when he was scolding the Black community are now dropping his ass. And yet he wants the Black media to "remain neutral"
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Yep. Bill Cosby thought he was exempt from vilification by the white media and now that they're going in on his old coon ass, he wants to talk about "neutrality" and "disparaging speech". As if he wasn't doing the same thing to the black community over the last 30 years.
And it's not even really vilification in this case because he so obviously abused these women & deserves every bit of criticism.
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Originally posted by borntodiethisway
Have you been raped? So how can you even speak on how someone should feel?
Also Janice Dickinson tried to come out with this 10 years ago. So it's not something all of a sudden.
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Janice ****ed everyone. She was one of the first supermodels, it was the 80's, there was drugs and actors and musicians at her disposal. Warren Beatty, Jack Nicholson, Mick Jagger, Bruce Willis, Rob Lowe etc
She was going to obviously **** Bill Cosby too but he took away her choice. She even took the drugs he gave her what he did was disgusting tho he is terrible Janice's credibility with the story has been around publicly since 2006, that's 8 years. That story comes from her book which has been around for 12 years when she was going to write it in her book. I could see if Janice had just revealed this today in 2014 but she didn't.
And I don't think Janice would lie on someone like that. Janice is crazy and that's what keeps people from believing her. It's like when Courtney would go on rants on her fan board when she was on drugs about George Clooney being gay, no one believes her but I do. They're like those crazy rednecks in horror movies that warn the teenagers not to go into the woods and the teens pay them dust but they weren't lying.
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Originally posted by RudeBoyy
Bill Cosby always seemed like a shoe shining coon (my new fave expression). He said he agreed with the Zimmerman verdict. GET HA!
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Damn right.
And then he has the nerve to tell the Black community that they should be on his side after he spent the last decade ridiculing them.
I hate this coon and I hope he gets whatever's coming towards him.
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Whatever this situation is,it's a damn SHAME.
I do not know the accusers' situations were at the time but speaking up about it,even behind closed doors to a therapist within 5 or 10 years from the incident is better than waiting 20-50 years to tell unless you are a child.
Mr. Cosby KNEW better.This man was supposed to be a role model for our community.Everyone isn't perfect,I get that, but he looks silly as hell when you gripe about how we (blacks) are the reason for our struggles, how we need to act like others and such YET you turn around and rape.He needed to be dragged if he was busy drugging and raping.
And I really am NO fan of Janice Dickinson, either. I still think she might be using drugs,tbh.
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WTF maiko? Being a rape victim can change your life. It can be a lot easier for some to sweep it under the carpet.
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The black media ain't gonna be neutral on him,either.
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Originally posted by Sláy
Have y'all heard about the Jimmy Saville case in the UK? He was a white version of Cosby in a way, and the same thing happened, but with young girls/women. People did NOT talk about sexual assault/molestation/rape back then. It was a hush-hush thing, and people never believed the victims, as the believed in the 'goodness' of the icon who supposedly did the horrid act. This was a culture, and the victims were fully aware of that.
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Th Savile case is different because he was molestating children. Freaking five year olds for Christ sake. I completely understand the mentality of a child that is effected by this and would not come out against any adult let alone know that was this is disgusting and heinous act against them.
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Originally posted by Javan
WTF maiko? Being a rape victim can change your life. It can be a lot easier for some to sweep it under the carpet.
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I'm in no way supporting Bill, I'm just having a hard time understanding why a regular joan would let a monster get away with this for 30 years and not expose him, get him locked up, and a check. I understand this in relation to molestation a lot more than rape, I suppose.
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Originally posted by Maiko
Th Savile case is different because he was molestating children. Freaking five year olds for Christ sake. I completely understand the mentality of a child that is effected by this and would not come out against anyone let alone know that was this is disgusting.
I'm in no way supporting him, I'm just having a hard time understanding why a regular joan would let a monster get away with this for 30 years and not expose him, get him locked up, and a check.
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Because it's shameful, embarrassing, people will see you differently for the rest of your life and you will see the pity in their eyes. Once it is brought up in the papers you must relive it, once it is brought to court you have to relive it detail. And if you are up against someone powerful, like Bill Cosby the chances of you succeeding is slim. The rate of successful rate convictions is already extremely low. That's taking the risk of being branded both liar and ***** at the same time, even as a legitimate victim.
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Originally posted by Maiko
And again, this only makes me more disdainful of the women. If he raped 30 women beginning 50 years ago, someone should of said something about, sorry. I cannot yet understand how one can't muster up something inside of them to say something about a very high profile monster before he rapes someone else.
**** I know that if Bill Cosby raped me I'm gonna say something to somebody. I've had people that were relatively close to me experience sexual crimes, they all sad something quickly and things were rectified, so I can't imagine 30 women choosing to be silent about it.
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Only 3% of rape cases end in conviction. 99% sure these women knew if they came forward they'd just be slandered, be mocked and considered liars desperate for attention. Also most people raped don't come forward to many people, they'd essentially be telling everyone by coming for him. I could see why they would stay silent.
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Originally posted by Javan
Because it's shameful, embarrassing, people will see you differently for the rest of your life and you will see the pity in their eyes. Once it is brought up in the papers you must relive it, once it is brought to court you have to relive it detail. And if you are up against someone powerful, like Bill Cosby the chances of you succeeding is slim. The rate of successful rate convictions is already extremely low. That's taking the risk of being branded both liar and ***** at the same time, even as a legitimate victim.
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The last sentence brings it home for me a bit, I know that something like that is tougher to prove, but its still tough for me to not imagine wanting to seek punishment for the individual that raped me. I feel that I would do that to no end, personally, but I'm not a celebrity and would care less about things in print and the public.
Thanks for explaining.
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