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Discussion: Why is 'BEYONCÉ' still praised a year after the surprise?
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Originally posted by 50thStateofMind
there's no need to bring her success down  that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It's a praised album, for it's innovative release and quality music. Get. Over. It. |
Bring to the ground is not the same as bringing her down.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Trent W
Excuse me?
I always praise her for her quality and that's why I have her back in my sig, the success is another topic that I always like to bring down to the ground because is always over-inflated here and other members are always discrediting other artists thanks to this inflated stats, is not fair.
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It has no inflated stats. There's no way to inflate them. We got other stanbases bragging about 52 million albums sold cause the "label said it", but the Hive can't claim 5 million albums sold, based off an OFFICIAL charting and sales company. Stop. Y'all stay trying to undermine her success. NO ONE is this thread is inflating the success of the album. You're just mad, as usual.
And take her out your siggy. With "fans" like you she doesn't need any haters.
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Originally posted by HumanitySector
The album and it's music are not praised, stop being delusional. However, the surprise release marketing will be praised for a long time, it was a boss move by her management.
Oh and Beyhive attacking Trent for speaking the truth, nothing new here.  |
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Beyoncé is one of the best damn albums of 2013, basically, however you’re looking at it: as an R&B record, a pop set, an electro collection. Whatever your tastes, you can’t question the quality here.
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She addresses topics like beauty, body image, miscarriages, jealousy, sexuality, marriage, motherhood and self-worth. That isn't just the work of a diva, that is the work of a political figure. The personal is the political.
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Easily her best album since B'day, it's among her most entertaining and sexually explicit work, yet it's substantive in every respect. When the album came out, the release itself dominated the chatter. In time, it should be seen as a career highlight from a superstar -- one of the hardest-working people in the business, a new mother, in total control, at her creative and commercial peak.
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she's delivered an album that is grown-up without being dowdy, weird without being trying and open without being a drag. It is a bold, expansive body of work that should have all the praise heaped on it because, without warning, she dropped one of the strongest albums of the year on us
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his is easily Beyoncé’s best album yet, a clear progression from her previous work and a musical triumph.
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Everywhere, Beyoncé’s buttery vocals are perfect, whether she’s growling on Drunk In Love (a follow up to Crazy In Love featuring Jay Z), unleashed on a ballad (Heaven), restrained on a Noah “40” Shebib-produced duet with Drake (Mine) or rapping an alt-hip-hop intro on Haunted.
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'the most X-rated pop album since Madonna's Erotica
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this is Beyoncé at her most experimental and, yes, risky.
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You're the delusional one.  Oh, Beyonce IS her management. She's the boss.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
It has no inflated stats. There's no way to inflate them. We got other stanbases bragging about 52 million albums sold cause the "label said it", but the Hive can't claim 5 million albums sold, based off an OFFICIAL charting and sales company. Stop. Y'all stay trying to undermine her success. NO ONE is this thread is inflating the success of the album. You're just mad, as usual.
And take her out your siggy. With "fans" like you she doesn't need any haters.
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Well that kind of stuff is why we have a problem here.
Where on earth has BEYONCÉ sold 5 million albums?
So if I don't agree with this inflated stats then I'm a hater?
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Originally posted by Trent W
Well that kind of stuff is why we have a problem here.
Where on earth has BEYONCÉ sold 5 million albums?
So if I don't agree with this inflated stats then I'm a hater?
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Show me an official source that it didn't and I can show you an OFFICIAL saying it did
I'll be waiting...
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Member Since: 3/6/2014
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
It has no inflated stats. There's no way to inflate them. We got other stanbases bragging about 52 million albums sold cause the "label said it", but the Hive can't claim 5 million albums sold, based off an OFFICIAL charting and sales company. Stop. Y'all stay trying to undermine her success. NO ONE is this thread is inflating the success of the album. You're just mad, as usual.
And take her out your siggy. With "fans" like you she doesn't need any haters.
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No one takes those people seriously tho....I think Beys accomplishments this era are well deserved and are good enough in itself and people are praising the album because the material was great so there is no need to inflate those figures I just don't see any possible way around the summer time she was just passing up Unapologetic with sales of 3.5 but now at the end of the year the hive is claiming she sold 5mill ww...where did those extra sales come from.
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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How many year-end charts did BEYONCÉ top for the songs, album and videos this year and last year's? Let me get the list.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Trent W
Well that kind of stuff is why we have a problem here.
Where on earth has BEYONCÉ sold 5 million albums?
So if I don't agree with this inflated stats then I'm a hater?
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You're a hater because you...wait for it...HATE. It's pretty simple to understand. And since you're such a damn fan, you go find the 5 million sold official receipt, from an official company. I'm done with you.
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BACK ON TOPIC. IDK why people keep saying they're not praising the quality of the album when that's been proven wrong. It's like they enjoy being ignorant or are just willfully trolling.
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oop, looks like atrl was wrong. again.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Djbrian
No one takes those people seriously tho....I think Beys accomplishments this era are well deserved and are good enough in itself and people are praising the album because the material was great so there is no need to inflate those figures I just don't see any possible way around the summer time she was just passing up Unapologetic with sales of 3.5 but now at the end of the year the hive is claiming she sold 5mill ww...where did those extra sales come from.
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That's what I would like to know
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Djbrian
No one takes those people seriously tho....I think Beys accomplishments this era are well deserved and are good enough in itself and people are praising the album because the material was great so there is no need to inflate those figures I just don't see any possible way around the summer time she was just passing up Unapologetic with sales of 3.5 but now at the end of the year the hive is claiming she sold 5mill ww...where did those extra sales come from.
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The Hive isn't claiming that 5 million seriously though. It's not even reflected in her receipts thread. If some claim it, they're only throwing it around to make others mad. I, don't believe in the 5 million, but I'm almost positive she sold more then then 3.5 UA allegedly sold, which is ALSO an inflated number with no concurring receipts to back it up. But I'm sleep.
The 5 million came from OCC.
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As of November 2014, Beyonce has sold 5 million copies worldwide.
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I'm also sleep on that.
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Because she rereleasing? 
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
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Anyway, the album is still getting praised because it's a great album that really stands out for not only it's incredible release strategy, but for it's amazing videos and exceptional musical quality. And despite the lack of hit singles, it's sold more units then album with hit singles. And that is a fact.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
You're a hater because you...wait for it...HATE. It's pretty simple to understand. And since you're such a damn fan, you go find the 5 million sold official receipt, from an official company. I'm done with you.
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So saying that an artist that I enjoy doesn't sell an amount that can't be proven is hating her?
All this threads go to the 10, 20 pages just because I don't like inflated stats. That is not hating on her.
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Member Since: 2/5/2014
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It's just the surprise release that had everyone excited. The music itself is good. But just good. Nothing phenomenal. It's still "relevant" today because she rode the surprise release wave for a bit during the first half of the year, the VMAs kept it up a bit, and as things were dying down, she re-released it with a few extra songs and a video that was supposed to show the world that "I am just a normal person like all of you" to fight off any claims that Beyonce was a Robot or cared too much about her image. All pretty well calculated. She and her management did a great job tricking people into thinking she put out a masterpiece when it's a B- at best.
But then again, given the current Pop climate, a B- seems like an A++ masterpiece to most doesn't it....
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Antonini
It's just the surprise release that had everyone excited. The music itself is good. But just good. Nothing phenomenal. It's still "relevant" today because she rode the surprise release wave for a bit during the first half of the year, the VMAs kept it up a bit, and as things were dying down, she re-released it with a few extra songs and a video that was supposed to show the world that "I am just a normal person like all of you" to fight off any claims that Beyonce was a Robot or cared too much about her image. All pretty well calculated. She and her management did a great job tricking people into thinking she put out a masterpiece when it's a B- at best.
But then again, given the current Pop climate, a B- seems like an A++ masterpiece to most doesn't it....
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This is the most accurate post about Beyonce I've seen since I joined here!
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Member Since: 3/6/2014
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
The Hive isn't claiming that 5 million seriously though. It's not even reflected in her receipts thread. If some claim it, they're only throwing it around to make others mad. I, don't believe in the 5 million, but I'm almost positive she sold more then then 3.5 UA allegedly sold, which is ALSO an inflated number with no concurring receipts to back it up. But I'm sleep.
The 5 million came from OCC.
I'm also sleep on that.
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I don't doubt she outsold UA I know that much I just thought it was weird that on all these blogs sites when reading the comments you see some mentioning 5mill and im thinking why are they inflating like her numbers were bad...it's the same issue I had with the Navy claiming UA sold 4.1 mill when it's shown she sold 3.4 or something around that figure which isn't bad either...but other then that I think all the praise of this album is justified and she delivered a great body of work.
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Member Since: 7/21/2010
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Originally posted by PULSE.
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The impact I want that shower curtain. Who else lyrics from their album became apart of pop culture like this. Ha impact.
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Because nothing will ever top its impact, it will always be the standard.
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