Beyonce has Countdown from 4
..literally no-one from that era could sing this song like Bey (2011)
(While Britney had generic till the world ends)
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Ben Cardew of Music Week appreciated "Countdown"'s composition and praised Knowles for experimenting with it; he thought "Countdown" was the oddest thing on the album and in Knowles' entire career.[
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Alexis Petridis of The Guardian stated that "there's nothing like ['Countdown'] on the charts" and that the brass arrangement "stab the one moment you hear anything resembling the influences mooted in the advance publicity"
No one could sing that son but Bey.. Charles Aaron from Spin explains it as
"Countdown' is Beyoncé's gangsta throwdown as an artiste, bumping and grinding and skipping and skating and caressing and catcalling and bearing witness all over the beat like nobody since MJ [Michael Jackson] — full stop."
Even the melody and structure is unconventional spiced with beyonce's sporadic flair
I'm gonna go with Britney on this one. Beyoncé may have a better discography overall but Britney's is a lot more experimental. Bey's first four albums have a similar sound with BEYONCÉ being her first real experimental venture. The only Britney albums that sound the same are her first two with In The Zone, Blackout, Circus, etc having different sounds.
I'm gonna go with Britney on this one. Beyoncé may have a better discography overall but Britney's is a lot more experimental. Bey's first four albums have a similar sound with BEYONCÉ being her first real experimental venture. The only Britney albums that sound the same are her first two with In The Zone, Blackout, Circus, etc having different sounds.
Britney is my answer.
I think you're limiting your perspective in a sense. The term "avant-garde" is a much broader concept than you and a lot of others are making it seem. I think it goes beyond the scope of "experimental music" and singing different types of music.
But first, Understand that Britney, as a pop singer/artist, sound is loosely based on a LOT of different sounds and genres; she sings whatever's popular-so her potential of delving into more experimental venture is higher than Beyonce, who is essentially an urban artist in every sense of the word. Yes, as a popular figure her versatility allows her to adapt and change her signature sound to fit a number of different genres (pop, country, alt/folk, jazz, gospel, rnb, funk,edm, neo-soul, latin/spanish) but her urban essence is still there--rather it be heard in her vocal delivery, the production, the rhythem or candence, Beyonce never strays from her roots. Her identity and personal artistry can always be found in her music..a trait that I don't always see in Britney. No shade
I think you're limiting your perspective in a sense. The term "avant-garde" is a much broader concept than you and a lot of others are making it seem. I think it goes beyond the scope of "experimental music" and singing different types of music.
But first, Understand that Britney, as a pop singer/artist, sound is loosely based on a LOT of different sounds and genres; she sings whatever's popular-so her potential of delving into more experimental venture is higher than Beyonce, who is essentially an urban artist in every sense of the word. Yes, as a popular figure her versatility allows her to adapt and change her signature sound to fit a number of different genres (pop, country, alt/folk, jazz, gospel, rnb, funk,edm, neo-soul, latin/spanish) but her urban essence is still there--rather it be heard in her vocal delivery, the production, the rhythem or candence, Beyonce never strays from her roots. Her identity and personal artistry can always be found in her music..a trait that I don't always see in Britney. No shade
Dont try to redefine avant-garde.
Avant-garde is a form of extremely innovative music containing unique elements, sounds or fusing different genres that are very unlikely to fit, twisted and disarranged, ignoring aestetical norms. Ideologically, its an expression of some rebelion against social norms. Its the exact opposite of mainstream mass culture (and of what these two ladies do).
And you can stay loyal to one genre and still be very versatile and innovative as an artist, more than for example someone who jumps from one genre to another but fails to create something unique. In fact most avant-garde musicians preferred certain genre and maintained its essence throughout their whole career, but did incredible things with it. There is nothing that can limit you tbh, only your own creativity
I don't see how Bey's music is avant-garde in any way, 70% of it is R&B/Urban. Britney on the other hand has worked with a lot of genres and her discography is a lot more experimental(although not exactly avant-garde either).
I don't see how Bey's music is avant-garde in any way, 70% of it is R&B/Urban. Britney on the other hand has worked with a lot of genres and her discography is a lot more experimental(although not exactly avant-garde either).
First of all, dabbeling in different genres does not make your work experimental, in fact, if you're a pop artist, you have to work with different genres because pop music is always changing. But... all Britney's ever done is dance-pop/electronic music and hip hop/R&B influenced music... so I fail to see her range.
Second, in NO way is Britney Spears more experimental than the woman who released Countdown and Ring the Alarm
I don't know where this "Beyoncé's music is all just basic R&B" is coming from. Sure most of her music is R&B... like most of Britney's music is dance-pop... but...
Soft-rock (driven by acoustic guitar)
Power ballads (electronic)
Hip Hop/Rap
Funk/Afro-funk
Latin pop
Classical influenced
Synthpop/Electropop
I mean... Satellites versus Diva. It's like two different artists, which is why even her fans have such polarizing opinions on her music.
And I haven't even posted songs like Mine, Haunted, Get Me Bodied.. Pffff. Lemme stop, because neither of them are avant-garde, but this whole "Beyoncé does the same style over and over" crap is laughable.
