To use this logic, we need to look not at if Britney can do something but how well she can do it. She is no Gaga on the piano. As someone said, Everytime is not a masterpiece of piano work.
Secondly, Christina can dance. Maybe not as well as Britney could, but if we are saying that Britney's piano skills are enough to qualify her in being talented at piano, the Christina's dancing skills should qualify her for that too.
And lastly, the amount of vocal talent Christina has over Britney far exceeds the importance of dancing and playing the piano. Both are regarded as singers after all, the weight for vocals should reflect that. When was the last time Britney played piano? When was the last time she gave a really great dance performance? Christina still slays vocally so, no, Britney is not more talented, even if we don't limit talent to just vocal ranges.
Everytime is not a masterpiece of piano work in your opinion.
"I Am Britney Jean" the documentary actually showed a clip of Britney trying to teach her son Jayden James to play the piano.
so when was the last time Christina actually moved her hips? if we're gonna discard Britney's dancing ability just because she didn't dance like she used to then we can sure as hell discard Christina's cardio movements she did and never did again.
Just because she does whistles and covered a few of her songs does not mean she is a influence. I'm sure she has some sort of influence on her, as I'm sure every female artist has minor or major influences on other female artist. This may be hard for you to comprehend since lambs love looking for comparisons between the two, to credit Mariah for the success Ariana is having, and Mariah is failing to achieve. But this is simply not the case and you will have to SEETHE
none care abt Ariana's gold alberms.
And N0 one thinks "just because she does some whistles" that she was influenced by G0D.
Media outlets don't make the comparison solely because of whistling. If that were the case they'd say she was influenced by a plethora of singers who whistle(d). It's not what she does, it's how she does it.
Ariana sings like this 3:01-3:20
Literally any gyal who isn't 12 years old can see that Ariana's singing style is an exact replica of G0D's. Which is fine and is why, before you ever even joined this site, and before Ariana was doing anything but covering YT videos, The Lambs were stanning.
Eternium never fails to amaze. His selective memory and the way he sifts through facts just to bring his own opinions deserve a round of applause.
This was a thread about Ariana being influenced by Xtina and Mariah. That's a fact, one that she has admitted to many times. Look at her cover videos before she blew up, she would cover them both.
She has never said she idolizes or mimics herself after Britney. Yet, the Britney stans ran into a thread not about her to try and discredit Xtina's influence. How predictable.
Ariana Grande covered Britney Spears. Here's her doing one of my fave covers of BOMT:
And this thread is a part two to T!na's failed shade thread which can be found here. I didn't discredit Christina, I discredited T!na for posting the same fake Tumblr post over and over again. Are the Fighters incapable of reading?
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I replied maybe because you quoted me? Duh. There goes your "argument", also you were questioning Xtina's influence on Ariana and I proved you wrong. Guess I am not the one who isn't smart enough in here.
But did they say Britney was more talented than Xtina? Oh right, they reduced their praise to a "she's a sweet and humble girl" line, didn't they? Not surprised at all.
I quoted T!na and then you quoted me. Go to the first page and refresh your memory.
Again, I ask how that fake Tumblr post T!na and D.M.F. were trying to pass of was influence. Are you really trying to argue over it after the Arianator that made it admitted to it?
Michael asked her to perform with him, Madonna asked her to perform with her multiple times (which Christina still fumes about) and even jumped on one of her singles as a surprise, Mariah Carey has praised Britney since the early 2000s and always hated Christina, etc. It's funny that I'm trying to discredit Christina for calling out a fake Tumblr image yet you're dedicating hours on an online forum trying to rewrite Britney's history
So according to Britney stans, or should I say Luke. Britney Spears is more talented than this lady because Whitney didn't dance or composed a #1 hit?
I would be embarrassed to say such stupid things...
Have common sense.
Like Queen Bea. said: Talent is subjective, arguing about this is pointless. Personal preference will always alter the outcome.
If you think Britney is more talented than Whitney, than Britney is more talented than Whitney to you. Fortunately nobody gives a **** about what you think.
What I'm saying is Britney has more talents than Christina and that makes her more talented.
@Rolland - Whitney danced. She played the piano. She was incredibly more vocally talented than any other mainstream pop star. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
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I agree. Not everyone has what it takes to be a superstar. Do Victoria Justice or the other girls have as strong a voice as her's though?
Victoria Justice had a great voice but it just wasn't as unique. The goth girl got a lot of praise and had a strong Youtube following but wasn't as hot, didn't have the marketable image and never got with major producers.
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Comparison are due to everything about Ariana being a mere imitation of something Mariah has defined as her own style at a point in her career.
Ariana is more than an imitation. She doesn't have Mariah's classic image that she started with and instead she goes for a more Lolita image. Ari's early music is also closer to Mariah's TEOM-type music, imo. There's definitely more to her than Mariah even though Mariah is her biggest influence. It would be like saying Britney is just a clone of Janet Jackson when she has elements from Mariah, Madonna, Bjork, Robyn, Gwen Stefani, etc. in her image/music.
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none care abt Ariana's gold alberms.
And N0 one thinks "just because she does some whistles" that she was influenced by G0D.
Media outlets don't make the comparison solely because of whistling. If that were the case they'd say she was influenced by a plethora of singers who whistle(d). It's not what she does, it's how she does it.
Ariana sings like this 3:01-3:20
Literally any gyal who isn't 12 years old can see that Ariana's singing style is an exact replica of G0D's. Which is fine and is why, before you ever even joined this site, and before Ariana was doing anything but covering YT videos, The Lambs were stanning.
Such a masterpiece and so true. It's hard to find any artist that came after Mariah that wasn't influenced by her. My fave's not even a major vocalist and even she was heavily influenced and uses the melisma that Mariah Carey popularized.
I quoted T!na and then you quoted me. Go to the first page and refresh your memory.
Again, I ask how that fake Tumblr post T!na and D.M.F. were trying to pass of was influence. Are you really trying to argue over it after the Arianator that made it admitted to it?
Michael asked her to perform with him, Madonna asked her to perform with her multiple times (which Christina still fumes about) and even jumped on one of her singles as a surprise, Mariah Carey has praised Britney since the early 2000s and always hated Christina, etc. It's funny that I'm trying to discredit Christina for calling out a fake Tumblr image yet you're dedicating hours on an online forum trying to rewrite Britney's history
God, you're truly something else.
I am not even talking about that fake image. You said how does that equate to influence in hopes to discredit Aguilera as an influence to Ariana. That fake image doesn't, hence why I brought a REAL receipt of Ariana stating Xtina is one of her biggest influences. What part exactly is that hard for your brain to understand? It's not a difficult task to comprehend that. The girl said it herself yet you're here grasping at straws.
Why didn't you answer my question? Let me ask it again, did they said Britney is more talented than Xtina? I'll wait but this time please don't bring another off-topic answer evading the question.
Have common sense.
Like Queen Bea. said: Talent is subjective, arguing about this is pointless. Personal preference will always alter the outcome.
If you think Britney is more talented than Whitney, than Britney is more talented than Whitney to you. Fortunately nobody gives a **** about what you think.
What I'm saying is Britney has more talents than Christina and that makes her more talented.
OMG the irony!
So, according to your flawless logic Britney is indeed more talented than Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, etc.
nnnn, good to know.
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@Rolland - Whitney danced. She played the piano. She was incredibly more vocally talented than any other mainstream pop star. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
You've got a fellow stan saying Britney is more talented than Xtina (Whitney, Mariah, Céline, Barbra, Aretha, Etta, Nina, Ella, etc) because she dance(d), plays the piano and composed a basic tune yet I am the one embarrassing myself? I truly believed you were better than this, one of the sane ones, guess not.
Ariana is more than an imitation. She doesn't have Mariah's classic image that she started with and instead she goes for a more Lolita image. Ari's early music is also closer to Mariah's TEOM-type music, imo. There's definitely more to her than Mariah even though Mariah is her biggest influence. It would be like saying Britney is just a clone of Janet Jackson when she has elements from Mariah, Madonna, Bjork, Robyn, Gwen Stefani, etc. in her image/music.
Her image is heavily influenced by the butterfly/rainbow imagery, same moves, same styles; Ariana's young-looking body may distort those concepts in a Lolita kind of way. Britney in fact has elements from all those artists you listed, Ariana doesn't. Everything about her so far is an imitation of something Mariah has already done.
Stop comparing Ariana to Mariah! She was not inspired by Mariah. She just covered some of her songs. Ariana is more inspired by legends like Xtina and Whitney.
But Ariana herself has cited Mariah as her main inspiration Why do you Arianators see it as something offensive, Mariah is a LEGEND, a woman with so much talent that has explored soul, R&B, hip hop and pop throughout her career and whose albums have been source of endless critical acclaim, and obviously one of the best selling female artists of all time. But oh well, I guess Ariana is just not on her level like y'all say.
And N0 one thinks "just because she does some whistles" that she was influenced by G0D.
Media outlets don't make the comparison solely because of whistling. If that were the case they'd say she was influenced by a plethora of singers who whistle(d). It's not what she does, it's how she does it.
Ariana sings like this 3:01-3:20
Literally any gyal who isn't 12 years old can see that Ariana's singing style is an exact replica of G0D's. Which is fine and is why, before you ever even joined this site, and before Ariana was doing anything but covering YT videos, The Lambs were stanning.
Tell these girls! I remember back in early 2013, when you and Taste of Honey were the biggest Ariana stans on this site. Oh how the times have changed.
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Stop comparing Ariana to Mariah! She was not inspired by Mariah. She just covered some of her songs. Ariana is more inspired by legends like Xtina and Whitney.
Not only is Ariana influenced by Mariah musically, artistically, and vocally but her producer talks about INTERNATIONALLY making it so that she reminded people of the young Mariah.
"Everyone keeps making Mariah comparisons, but there’s different types of Mariah,” Harmony explained. “There’s the real Pop Mariah from “Emotions”, the throwback Mariah from “Butterfly” and she has different colors. That’s why [Grande is] Mariah."
Have common sense.
Like Queen Bea. said: Talent is subjective, arguing about this is pointless. Personal preference will always alter the outcome.
If you think Britney is more talented than Whitney, than Britney is more talented than Whitney to you. Fortunately nobody gives a **** about what you think.
What I'm saying is Britney has more talents than Christina and that makes her more talented.
lol "common sense"
Yes, talent is subjective. But there are objectivities about it. A stronger voice is a stronger voice. Whitney can hit notes and project in ways that Britney could never. These are facts. These facts support the idea that Whitney is more talented.
It's like if both of us were sculptors and you sculpted really beautiful, amazing sculptures and mine were alright but weren't anything special. But I also made a finger painting once. So does that mean I'm more talented than you?
Everytime is not a masterpiece of piano work in your opinion.
"I Am Britney Jean" the documentary actually showed a clip of Britney trying to teach her son Jayden James to play the piano.
so when was the last time Christina actually moved her hips? if we're gonna discard Britney's dancing ability just because she didn't dance like she used to then we can sure as hell discard Christina's cardio movements she did and never did again.
No, it's not a masterpiece in my opinion. Nor will it be in most people's opinions. Masterpiece is a very specific word. Mozart wrote masterpieces, not Britney Spears.