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Poll: Music News and Groups: The aftermath
View Poll Results: The groups section? YE or NE
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Yes! Keep it open
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No! Shut it down
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Member Since: 4/23/2007
Posts: 16,416
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Cat deLoona ![too funny](images/smilies/images/smilies/priceless.gif) Oh, I'm fine with the groups thing, but don't put it as a sub-forum in Music News, put it as a forum we can see at the main page if you want it to work.
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Member Since: 8/6/2003
Posts: 50,977
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Quote:
Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
If Red is a mod, Mazen is a mod.
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Sorry, it was a typing mistake. Guess I thought about talking to him and then changed to the mods and it all got wrong after that. ![:-!](images/smilies/images/smilies/aol_foot-in-mouth.gif) But I guess my message is still there anywayz.
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Member Since: 8/14/2007
Posts: 29,341
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
Posts: 32,819
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Welcome to the department of redundancy department. ![:)](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Member Since: 9/24/2001
Posts: 2,608
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GOOD JOB! I LIKE THIS NEW FORMAT!
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 12/29/2003
Posts: 6,311
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Official threads always seemed pointless. I like the new set-up in the Music forums.
Seeing that groups have discussions threads... GO GROUPS GO!
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Member Since: 12/12/2004
Posts: 17,160
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I dont really see how there was a problem with it before .... i mean, wouldnt it have just been easier if you locked all the threads but the Britney/Beyonce/Christina/anyone popular ones? And even still, was anybody like really complaining?
Cuz now its even messier with everything is all over the place..
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 12/29/2003
Posts: 6,311
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Do you really have to make a thread for EVERY single thing that happens with an artist? Keep the meaningless gossip threads in the Celebrity section while post actual NEWS about the artist and their music in Music. Think about using blogs and groups before making a new thread!
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Member Since: 9/20/2008
Posts: 2,651
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I think we can keep them but moderate Music News better. LOL get some fresh mods like me who promises to be good. ![Fonso](images/smilies/suspicious.gif) Seriously considor letting new people try out to be mods to help the other mods.
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Member Since: 12/12/2004
Posts: 17,160
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Quote:
Originally posted by orange
Do you really have to make a thread for EVERY single thing that happens with an artist?
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Thats kinda the point of an official topics lol...
All of Britneys news stayed in her official topic & i used her as an example because she gets the most news on here but the same happened with the Beyonce & Christina ones...
The new groups thing actually makes it even MORE unorganized because theres gonna 10 million different topics in her group, a new conservator topic like every day, new tour stuff, Circus having a topic, Amy having a topic...and likewise with every other artist. Wouldnt it just be better to have ALL that in one topic than all over the place?
& the music news board will be totally pointless & empty.
![:p](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 12/29/2003
Posts: 6,311
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The thing is, with groups, all the Britney topics will stay in the Britney group. It's essentially like a sub-forum for each artist. Sure, some people will still make groups for pointless artists but what can you do? It just seems better than having to deal with everyone trying to have official threads in Music.
Just think before you post. The "New Thread" page, that has links to groups and blogs, should help you do that. Either way, I say this is definitely worth trying and kudos to the mods for checking it out!
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Member Since: 12/12/2004
Posts: 17,160
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Quote:
Originally posted by orange
The thing is, with groups, all the Britney topics will stay in the Britney group. It's essentially like a sub-forum for each artist. Sure, some people will still make groups for pointless artists but what can you do? It just seems better than having to deal with everyone trying to have official threads in Music.
Just think before you post. The "New Thread" page, that has links to groups and blogs, should help you do that. Either way, I say this is definitely worth trying and kudos to the mods for checking it out!
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I thought the whole point was to make everything neater though. Making even more topics is like the opposite. They'll all be in the Britney board but....its still messy. And every single artist needs their own board? Really? :-/ Some of them need to be in the main music news section, because thats the only way most people would even get news about unpopular artists...
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Member Since: 7/21/2007
Posts: 17,522
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When are the discussion threads coming back?
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ATRL Administrator
Member Since: 5/2/2000
Posts: 2,844
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Fan Groups aren't designed for breaking news. They're just for day-to-day talk about the artist. They're a place where you can go every day to reaffirm your love for that artist, from now until the end of time.
Celebria is the place to post if there's new gossip, paparazzi, and tabloid stuff.
Music News is the place to post breaking news (new info, single, album release, leak, etc).
It's not that hard to understand, I promise.
Artists like Britney Spears are so popular that it doesn't make sense to cram everything about them into one thread. It makes things hard to follow, because it moves so quickly, and we don't have "updated threads" anymore.
If you guys actually give this a shot instead of just bitching, popular artists will get the same treatment as everybody else in Music News and Celebria, but their fans will also have a place to go every day for fan discussion.
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
Posts: 51,546
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I really don't get the point. I can understand a bit how official threads not being updatable anymore makes it hard for anyone to see the actual news in an that thread. But now, it only adds to a problem of people creating multiple info threads.
It's basically going back to how it was before official threads became popular to where you'll have someone like Xtian posting 5-10 Britney topics a day, which adds onto whoever else is trying to, only making admin/mod jobs harder because now they'll be closing threads more often that when everything was just in one thread.
I really don't see the point in this, unless there were numerous complaints about not getting specific news on an artist, because really if somebody wanted news then they would be one of the main people in one of those official threads....
But whatever, I'll stop "bitching" to make the job easier. ![:)](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
Posts: 51,546
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Quote:
Originally posted by Pinter
and all the "official threads" have closed ![party](images/smilies/images/smilies/party.gif)
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Jealous all of yours either failed or got closed. ![dies](images/smilies/images/smilies/dies.gif)
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ATRL Administrator
Member Since: 5/2/2000
Posts: 2,844
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Quote:
Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
It's basically going back to how it was before official threads became popular to where you'll have someone like Xtian posting 5-10 Britney topics a day
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Back during those days, there were a few very important differences...
1. We didn't have Music News (it was just the catch-all "Music" forum), so there was no organization.
2. We didn't have the Celebria forum (it was "TV & Movies"), so we didn't have a place for gossip/paparazzi.
3. We didn't have these threaded Artist Fan Groups at all.
4. We didn't have a proper way to warn members for being annoying.
5. We didn't have the directions for posting a new thread.
Now, we have a lot more systems in place for dealing with problems we had in the past.
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Member Since: 1/9/2009
Posts: 3,553
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My opinion might not be wanted here (Recees) but you could probably close a thread once it has 150 pages max. (kinda like what they do at Pulse)
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Member Since: 12/12/2004
Posts: 17,160
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Quote:
Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
I really don't get the point. I can understand a bit how official threads not being updatable anymore makes it hard for anyone to see the actual news in an that thread. But now, it only adds to a problem of people creating multiple info threads.
It's basically going back to how it was before official threads became popular to where you'll have someone like Xtian posting 5-10 Britney topics a day, which adds onto whoever else is trying to, only making admin/mod jobs harder because now they'll be closing threads more often that when everything was just in one thread.
I really don't see the point in this, unless there were numerous complaints about not getting specific news on an artist, because really if somebody wanted news then they would be one of the main people in one of those official threads....
But whatever, I'll stop "bitching" to make the job easier. ![:)](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I mean yeah, there was no problem in any of the discussion topics other than nasty ass trolls coming in but its nothing that big ... i think the mods just got annoyed of having to deal with banning people so thought this would be better which makes sense i guess. Lets just drop it & see how it works, you know talking back to TC leads to....
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
Posts: 51,546
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Quote:
Originally posted by TC
Back during those days, there were a few very important differences...
1. We didn't have Music News (it was just the catch-all "Music" forum), so there was no organization.
2. We didn't have the Celebria forum (it was "TV & Movies"), so we didn't have a place for gossip/paparazzi.
3. We didn't have these threaded Artist Fan Groups at all.
4. We didn't have a proper way to warn members for being annoying.
5. We didn't have the directions for posting a new thread.
Now, we have a lot more systems in place for dealing with problems we had in the past.
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I understand that, but that won't, and still hasn't, stop people from posting what they want in any section. Of course you all can just close/delete/move the threads, but you'd still be doing a lot more than you were with 1 thread for a specific artist.
But, since it's here, I'll give it a try. ![:)](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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