I still adore the "her dad made her famous!" excuses because like didn't Miley's siblings Trace and Brandi try to have music careers and fail miserably.

Her making more money later in the game where she is in a better position to negotiate is standard, and is not directly correlated to how popular the franchise is. Her being able to tour and get endorsements as Miley, is based off her success as Hannah, they are not two different people based on hair color. Her writing on her albums later in the game is impressive, but would be more impressive if she did it from the start like Taylor, who was one of her direct competitors at the time. Just being in a position to make a lot of money is not that impressive if you did not get to that position of your own volition.

So you're saying she learned to make smart decisions as a business woman by the time she was 17? Her being able to sell and tour as Miley Cyrus (more successfully than she did as Hannah) is a testament of her business sense and appeal to break out as a standalone artist, which should have been ridiculously hard considering how huge Hannah Montana was? Miley did write from the start on Meet Miley Cyrus, that was her debut album??? She got to the position by auditioning for the role, being initially turned down because she was too young, but being persistent in her pursuit for the role and continuing to campaign for the role? Literally nothing you're saying has much validity to it because I feel like you know nothing about Miley's career and you're just spouting off stuff that sounds like it might apply to her.

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Anyone who sells millions of albums or even singles has an impressive career. People are always quick to discredit musicians.

I'm not saying she didn't work hard throughout the process. But to compare her to Selena or Demi isn't a fair battle. It's much easier to transfer your career from being a TV popstar to a real one with people giving you the songs and the image than to go from being a TV wizard. I highly doubt the money being pumped into each girl was the same.

And who knows how Miley scored the opportunity to even audition for HM. To say whether or not her dad was a part of the process is something we will never know.

Demi played a musician in the very successful DCOM "Camp Rock" which spawned a top 10 single and a platinum and gold album. The Jonas Brothers (who were massive at the time) were attached to the project, essentially meaning Demi was stepping into a guaranteed empire like you said about Miley earlier. Why hasn't she replicated Miley's success? The Cheetah Girls played aspiring pop stars and they spawned multiplatinum and platinum soundtrack albums in the real world. Why did their attempt to become an actual full fledged pop group fail? Why did Raven Symone's solo albums not even scrape gold? Why didn't they replicate Miley's success?

I don't know why people are trying to make excuses for her success. I don't even like her but it's definitely imprestive what she accomplished. So many Disney stars before her yet she's the only one who managed a billion dollar franchise and sold out tours. Her most impressive/successful work is with Hannah Montana. Her 'solo' work is impressive, changing her image to gain WW attention with Bangerz and multipatinum singles and albums is impressive. No other disney/nick star has managed to be so successful in widening their audience and selling well

Her being able to tour is not a testament to her business sense, it's the testament to the demand for her. Hannah Montanna was not a hindrance to her solo career, to say it was is laughable. It was hindrance to the image she wanted to portray in the Bangerz era, but that's it. If Meet Miley Cyrus is her debt album, she doesn't have 5 #1 albums.

Auditioning for a role and winning it is impressive, but to compare it to her contemporaries of the same age is not the same level of work, it just isn't. Taylor wrote her own material and worked her way up on an indie label. Bey at Miley's age toured the world in a group performing everywhere to get where she is.

Like, they really think Disney execs were sitting in Los Angeles, cackling because they had a surefire hit on their hands about a normal girl who also happens to be a pop star when she puts a wig on. "Perfect!" they say, now we just need some wonk toothed 12 year old hillbilly who lives on a farm in Tennessee to play the role, that's exactly what we're looking for. Let's call up a country singer who hasn't had a hit in a decade and see what his daughter's doing.

You just said it, the demand for her, Miley Cyrus, someone who had so much appeal with her style and her music that people forgot about Hannah Montana. (Miley started outselling Hannah Montana albums with her studio albums with ease by 2009.) MMC was her debut album because it was the first one released under her name and the first one she wrote on, but like you said it's not like they're different people so the debut Hannah Montana soundtrack is technically hers too.

Okay... So just because (X) career is very impressive and they did it (X) way it means Miley's career isn't? There are different routes to fame but Miley got there at the age of 13 and she reached a stratospheric level of success and that's that. The way you try to twist around cold hard facts is mortifying.

now Miley is not even writing her songs?

then why isn't Demi on Miley's level when it's so easy to become a successful pop star when you have a show about music when Demi was on Camp Rock?

Her dad got the role because of Miley and not the other way round. A lot of people were auditioning for the role and they chose Miley after a long time even though they weren't looking for someone like Miley.

In the end it's not easy to have a successful career if all you have do is to be in a Disney movie/tv show that is about music. It takes so much more and Miley's talent contributed to the career she has now.

I don't want to go for tit for tat with the Disney stars b/c they all started on third base. But the only reason Demi is around today, is b/c she, like Miley, was given the platform to present her self and her talents to a wide audience, given a sound, image, music, and the opportunity to tour like Miley by Disney. This was something that was not offered to someone like Emily Osment who was also on Disney and tried to be a solo artist. They were made stars.

How much work goes into "having a style" or "an appeal". Like really. Miley = Hannah. The demand for Hannah = Miley. And yes, they all had different routes to superstardom, and Miley's was by far the easiest and least impressive. Yes Miley reached the stars, while others only reached the clouds. But she didn't start on the ground like everyone else.

Like... Where's Zendaya at? Bella Thorne? Chyna McClain? All of them are based in music shows where they sing and are portrayed as famous or aspiring to be famous, yet...

Even IF she got the role thanks to her dad (she didn't) who had a hit 172626 years ago it doesn't change the fact her stats and achievements are impressive. The career she had with and without Disney is something some girls could only dream of. She isn't some label puppet with no control of her entire career so she actually worked for all she has reached today too. Being on a successful tv show where she plays a pop star with a wig doesn't secure you a bright future without the show. Otherwise she wouldn't make her peers look that small.

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Stop embarassing yourself for God's sake