Discussion: SUBG paved the way for Katy, Miley, & P!nk, says Billboard - Page 6

DejaVu

I'd also like to note that the original article is from 2010, when billboard did their "Song of the Decade" list. We Belong Together, Since u Been Gone & Crazy In Love were all name checked in the 00s. My faves stay winning

Nerevanin

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Originally posted by DejaVu

You ignorant fools

If you knew anything, you'd know that both Kelly and the producers have gone on record stating that Kelly is responsible for the songs sound/direction into a rock record. It was written as bubblegum pop for p!nk and H. Duff. P!nk turned it down and idk what happened to Hillary. but Kelly only agreed to record it if she could change lyrics in the chorus and add drums and guitars.

So even though Kelly isn't the type force her name into songwriting credits, she still had a huge hand in making the track successful. Not to mention, no artist has been able to successfully deliver the vocal she gave on the song.

Hillary couldn't reach the high notes.

Green

The lies. I like Kelly but her sound was actually inspired by the pop rock girls of 2002: P!nk, Avril, Michelle Branch.

After that the girls started to follow the pop rock girl sound that got popular again: Hilary, Ashlee and of course Kelly too.

Miley Ray Cyrus

None of Miley's songs were influenced by Kelly

P!nkism

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Originally posted by rivers

I can see how the Pink argument can go both ways. Yes she did come first, but I do think SUBG was the catalyst that opened up the pop/rock genre to other artists.

Actually M!ssundaztood is kinda credited for that, bringing pop-rock back

LONGWAY2GO.

Michelle Branch was actually the girl that made pop/rock popular in the early 00's and the rest followed suit

@ people crediting Kelly, Pink or Avril

Ressti

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Originally posted by Green

The lies. I like Kelly but her sound was actually inspired by the pop rock girls of 2002: P!nk, Avril, Michelle Branch.

After that the girls started to follow the pop rock girl sound that got popular again: Hilary, Ashlee and of course Kelly too.

Exactly.

Michelle Branch had really good songs

P!nkism

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Originally posted by MJ Boston

The meltdowns in here

. I'm a massive P!nk fan, and it's great that she was doing this kind of thing (or trying to) when Kelly did, but Kelly is the one that made the style popular with the SUBG-BTHE one two punch.

Trying to do pop-rock?

Lol bye M!ssundaztood was a huge success, there was no TRYING, she did it.

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Originally posted by Nerevanin

OMG, finally someone sees the true! Miss and Breakaway sound nothing alike, if Breakaway sounds similar to another record, it's Avril's Let Go. She can take the credit for influencing Kelly.

How does P!nk's later work sound like Breakaway, and if it does, that's coz P!nk probably appreciated Dr. Luke's work and decided to work with him
If she were that impressed with SUBG and with Kelly she would have accepted a song, and would have probably released a duet with Kelly, i guess she doesn't really wanna work with ha.

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Originally posted by Green

The lies. I like Kelly but her sound was actually inspired by the pop rock girls of 2002: P!nk, Avril, Michelle Branch.

After that the girls started to follow the pop rock girl sound that got popular again: Hilary, Ashlee and of course Kelly too.

And this, is the absolute TEA

Nerevanin

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Originally posted by P!nkism

How does P!nk's later work sound like Breakaway, and if it does, that's coz P!nk probably appreciated Dr. Luke's work and decided to work with him
If she were that impressed with SUBG and with Kelly she would have accepted a song, and would have probably released a duet with Kelly, i guess she doesn't really wanna work with ha.

Wut? When the hell did I say that Pink's post Miss work sounds like Breakaway? Glad that Pink appreciated Dr. Luke after he had some hits thanks to Kelly though.

The second sentence doesn't make sense at all. Why would Pink collab with Kelly on a song she turned down? She didn't like the demo. Fine. Kelly added more guitars, drums etc and turned it into a very acclaimed hit which did have some impact. End of story. I still don't see why they would collab though. Kelly doesn't have to release different versions of a song each week to hopefully get a hit.