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Discussion: Biggest Albums of 1999-2014 Countdown | FINISHED
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Originally posted by Scraperwalker
Shakira's Laundry Service is bigger than almost every album mentioned so far in this thread but its only #75. (ps. its sold over 18 million copies, not 12  )
Showing how RIDICULOUS and inaccurate this countdown is.
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Originally posted by slobro
Hm I can't give spoilers
And there's no perfect way to compare albums of 1999-2014 when the market is shrinking every year. But ranking albums based on their market share is one of the most neutral ways to do so because an album's market share (dominance) is unaffected by the sales climate, so there's no (dis)advantage for any album, regardless of when an album is released.
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Britney sold less than Laundry Service but more than enough to make it on the list
The only problem is your methodology ignores the roof for album sales, the volume of releases per year and catalogue sales. If you included that, you would account for the fact that market share is greatly affected by the sales climate.
For example, BOMT flopped and only sold 17M copies in 1999 and 8M from 2000-2009. However, the rate will show 25M from 1999. If you tried to add up the marketshare for every album released in a specific year, it would be well over 100% because these catalogue sales are counted per year of release and not chart run.
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Originally posted by ****YesLovato
Elvis 
The release year 
The sales 
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Once The Beatles' 1 album is up here you'll be dumbfounded. Biggest selling album of this millenium.
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Originally posted by Scraperwalker
Shakira being treated like She was Taylor or something

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Sales from small countries are already included in the worldwide total. Don't be mad

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Originally posted by Eternium
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Britney sold less than Laundry Service but more than enough to make it on the list
The only problem is your methodology ignores the roof for album sales, the volume of releases per year and catalogue sales. If you included that, you would account for the fact that market share is greatly affected by the sales climate.
For example, BOMT flopped and only sold 17M copies in 1999 and 8M from 2000-2009. However, the rate will show 25M from 1999. If you tried to add up the marketshare for every album released in a specific year, it would be well over 100% because these catalogue sales are counted per year of release and not chart run.
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That goes for every album not just BOMT. Every album has its sales split to a certain degree  It's not like BOMT is at an inherent disadvantage
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47. Up All Night
One Direction
Sales: 5,400,000
Year: 2011 (Factor: 2.90×)
Market Share: 0.4923%
Score: 15,668,368
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who reported this?
Anyways, I'm lurking. Interested to see how this countdown turns out!
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Originally posted by slobro
^^This is why I don't use atrl receipts.. The stan inflations..
Laundry Service 2001 Type Studio Album
Langage English
America
US 4,000,000 Rank AT #275
Canada 550,000 Rank AT #176
Brazil 100,000 Rank AT #160
Mexico 450,000 Rank AT #14
Argentina 100,000 Rank AT #107
Asia
Japan 250,000 Rank AT #318
Oceania
Australia 420,000 Rank AT #88
New Zealand 55,000 Rank AT #190
Europe
Europe 4,980,000 Rank AT #97
- UK 825,000 Rank AT #263
- France 730,000 Rank AT #89
- Germany 975,000 Rank AT #83
- Italy 300,000 Rank AT #177
- Spain 550,000 Rank AT #21
- Sweden 135,000 Rank AT #144
- Netherland 220,000 Rank AT #112
- Switzerland 220,000 Rank AT #30
- Austria 100,000 Rank AT #86
- Finland 91,000 Rank AT #13
World
World 12,400,000 Rank AT #201
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CLOCK HA!
Personally I think this methodology is infinitely better than any way done previously to rank albums over time...
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Reported.

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Next time slobro if you are not going to do the things in a proper way, you better not do anything.

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WTF @ the report. Which pressed soul is trying to ruin the OP's hard work and hit thread
someone is ****ing pressed.
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Originally posted by slobro
47. Up All Night
One Direction
Sales: 5,400,000
Year: 2011 (Factor: 2.90×)
Market Share: 0.4923%
Score: 15,668,368
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So according to this ridiculous list, this thing was way bigger than Laundry Service? LOL 
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omg, what's going on? 
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Originally posted by Scraperwalker
Next time slobro if you are not going to do the things in a proper way, you better not do anything.

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This is done in an interesting way and isn't as inaccurate as some of y'all pressed souls are making it out to be. Pop girls are not the biggest things on the planet, sorry. Bands have always been. Sure this list is flawed but hey it's fun anyways 
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Originally posted by Scraperwalker
So according to this ridiculous list, this thing was way bigger than Laundry Service? LOL 
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Yes. It was
Do you remember 1D's first era?  It was massive.
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@ Someone being bothered by Shakira's position on an ATRL Countdown. 
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omg Louis his power 
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Originally posted by Scraperwalker
Next time slobro if you are not going to do the things in a proper way, you better not do anything.

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wtf?
up all night so high though 
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Originally posted by slobro
That goes for every album not just BOMT. Every album has its sales split to a certain degree  It's not like BOMT is at an inherent disadvantage
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To elaborate:
Album A: 5M sold in 1999: Score = 5M*1 = 5M
Album B: 2.5M sold in 1999 + 2.5M sold in 2000: Score = 2.5M*1 + 2.5M*1.02 = 5.05M
It barely makes a difference, not worth the extra trouble. It's far easier to assign all sales from an album to one year.
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Originally posted by Scraperwalker
So according to this ridiculous list, this thing was way bigger than Laundry Service? LOL 
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Stans lie, statistics don't

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