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Originally posted by gloamingtheplain
Why do you think that a straight person will judge you more than a gay person? Like, I know plenty of straights that go to Gay Bars with their Girlfriends, not because they are gay, just because they enjoy the scene.
Implying that every straight person judges Gays is ignorant, sorry. If you feel that every straight person is judging you for being Gay, then you need to change your mindset. Most straights don't even care. Especially the ones in Gay clubs.
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"Stick to your own bars" is again ignorant, because there's no such thing as "Straight bar" where it's straight focused. Anyone is allowed into Straight bar regardless of their sexuality. This is also counter-productive in that you push back stereotyping to the extreme. We're trying to make a world where Gays aren't treated like outsiders. And Remember, being Gay is just a sexual preference. It's not a stereotype. Straight man can enjoy feminine things too.
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Lastly, if you hit on a straight person in a Gay club, and they decline, that really isn't any different to a Gay person declining also. The last part gives the impression that straights being in a club means you can't flirt, hook up, dance with everyone, because they aren't all Gay. But you can't do that anyway, even if they are all Gay.
I agree that everyone is different and we all have different needs, but there's a difference between having clubs for different people, and then being discriminative towards other people.
How do you expect straights to not discriminate Gays when Gays discriminate against straights?
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I think this is ignorance speaking. It discounts ALL of the history of gays being discriminated against, targeted and beaten, and even killed. It also discounts the fact that gay people have few safe places to go and just be themselves without worrying about what the straight people around them are going to think and do. You post also discounts everything as simply a oh you can't hook up with everybody when that's not what people are saying at all. When straight people go to a gay bar, gays automatically have to behave differently than they otherwise would if straight people were not going to that bar.
People who are going just to have a good time... gays bars aren't around for straight people's entertainment. Additionally, maybe you are gay and don't want your boss who you aren't out to or your bosses wife at the gay bar seeing you there. In many states it is still perfectly legal to fire someone for being gay. Many out gays can forget about being promoted to higher positions etc once someone at the office finds out about your being gay who you maybe didn't want to know about that part of your life. Are there not enough straight bars to go to without the straight people coming to the gay bar to be "entertained" when being around other straight people gets to be "too boring"?
Back when DADT was still a thing, the military used to send people to bars to find out who was gay and who wasn't gay. They had a list of bars you were not allowed to go to if you were in the military on the basis of them being gay bars. The military would actively target gay people.