Madonna did not become famous until she was 25-26. Has ALOT to do with why she turned out the way she did. Had she had started around 17-18 I'm sure things would of been different. She went through A LOT when she moved to NYC apparently.

She herself always says she is glad she did all the things she did before she got famous.

I will say though, to be as salacious and envelope pushing as she was, much about her personal life behind what she liked to regurgitate out there was always held private. She was and is still a media wizard.

Madonna is a great role model yes, she is a great example of hard work and discipline, she inspires us to be better versions of ourselves.

I also truly admire how she has never been lazy and fallen into the trap of drugs and substance abuse, I guess it is because she is not weak but strong-willed and focused.

Same.

The incessant and gruesome plastic surgery and her many, many public meltdowns (Letterman in the 90s, her very public and embarrassing meltdown with Sean Penn, her meltdown over Lady Gaga in 2012 calling her "reductive" out of spite )

I don't think Madonna is a good role model at all. In fact, I think she's completely toxic and really negative.

EDIT: And her obsessive workout regimen is basically something she does out of her own personal preference. Not everyone needs (or has the time) to be in the gym 7 days a week doing intense arm blasting routines. Going to the gym a few times a week is healthy and most pop stars and celebrities do this. Balance, rather than obsession, is much more healthy.

I agree.

The revisionism

I forgot her humanitarian efforts, without huge publicity displays and without using them as marketing campaigns to sell albums, her foundations have actually built schools which are already working.

the hardest working woman in the business.

she deserves respect for so many things. she's had such a hard life but never complains. NEVER. she's a strong woman.

out of "spite"? are you ****ing kidding me?! gaga should bow the **** DOWN to madonna. all the shade from gaga and her people even before madonna's "reductive" comment alone was so disrespectful. I could go on about this, but I don't want to do you that favour. it would be too easy.

She is also the ultimate role model for successful pop girls, with the likes of Ariana Grande, Britney, Rihanna and Beyonce being some who have publicly praised Madonna and listed her as an inspiration, which has garnered most of them long solid careers

Yeah she's never had a problem mentally that's why she got all that work done...or the whole sex book sleeping with lots of random stars and what not...

She's not a role model.

I spotted no lies. Thank you for this reality check.

Madonna fans love to revise her history.

She's probably a role model to pop stars, but not to the GP

oh dear god. this can't be healthy anymore, seriously

Queen! AMAZING THREAD!

You are talking about her public image, content of her art, we are talking about how she's lead her personal life, professional career. Discipline, hard work, determination and a focus on health have always been the key to her success, and for this she is a solid role model.

She is a role model for sure and there is no doubt about it either.