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Discussion: Let's try 2 solve the infamous "Milli Vanilli" Blind item
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Let's try 2 solve the infamous "Milli Vanilli" Blind item
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CDAN – The year is 2006. If this story ever comes out, it would blow the music world up and shake it to its core. This would put the Milli Vanilli scandal and Ashlee Simpson SNL situation so far down the ladder it would be crazy.
Towards the end of last year I had a woman come into my office and she began to explain what she had done and had been doing for several years and it was one of the very few times that I just could not believe what I was hearing. I know the music industry inside and out, and I had never heard of something so extensive and pervasive as this.
This woman (S) came into my office because the payments she had been receiving had stopped and she wanted to either get the money that was owed to her, or expose what she had been doing to the light of day.
S is a sessions/studio/backup singer and is very good..Prior to her involvement in what I am going to describe, she made a very good living singing on commercials and being a backup singer for groups and other solo acts, etc..Like I said she is very good, but she does not really have that “look” which would make her a star, so record companies did not put her out front, but just used her talents.
In late 2000, a man came to her one day and said he needed someone to record some demos because he had written a lot of songs, but wanted a demo to shop the songs to singers and record labels..This is not unusual at all and she had done this type of work before and it paid pretty well so she agreed. What was unusual about her recording of the demos was how much work was put into the actual recordings..It was extensive..Generally there is not much time put into the recordings because you never really know if the song will even sell, and the money spent on recording could be put to better uses..These demos she was recording were actually being treated as if they were going to be released on a CD or to radio..They even did some mixing which was REALLY unusual.
After a few weeks she had recorded about over a dozen songs and she went on her way and was really oblivious to anything else pertaining to it, UNTIL several months later she was in her car and heard her voice coming from the radio, only it was another singer being given credit..(We will call this other singer MV for Milli Vanilli) She could not believe what she was hearing and did not know whether to be excited to hear herself on the radio, confused about the credit given to another singer or just pissed off for the same reasons.
What she did do, was to call the man who had originally come to her and had her record the songs..The man agreed to meet her and gave her a substantial sum of money and promised to keep giving her money every month as long as she kept her mouth shut. MV was taking off..(MV has/had several Top 40 songs and CD’s. They could have gone to #1 or languished in the 30′s..I really cannot go into much more detail or else it would be too easy to discover) MV was everywhere..on television, radio, awards shows, commercials..EVERYWH ERE..meanwhile, S continued to get money every month and kept her little secret to herself..The guy who picked S was VERY lucky..Most singers would have caused a fuss, but S has always been in the background and was resigned to the fact she always would be, and was very happy just taking the $$, and did not want that to stop.
About 9 months go by and S is called by the guy because MV is going on tour and they want S to record some extra mixes and such for the tour.She agrees and does not really do much, but money is money.
Fast forward another year or so and S stops receiving money and after a few months of missed payments, calls the guy who explains that they need S to do another CD and then the payments can continue, but there is no more money unless she does more recordings..
S agrees and records another CD worth of songs which is released several months later and does even better than the first CD. This same process is repeated (I am not going to tell you the number of CD’s because again you may be able to deduce and so I will just say the process repeated itself several times)
Well everything goes well for the most part for all these years and then no more payments, and no more calls and she cannot even locate our mystery man..S has not received a payment in six months when she came into my office and related this story..She did not even know the guy’s name, but when she described him, I knew who he was and was even more floored than I had been previously. This was just something I had really not heard before.
I had heard of really altering voices in the recording studios and bringing in hired hands for one song or a large portion of a song, but never CD after CD and even doing extra work so a live performance would not sound staged..I told her I needed some time to check into her story and then we could proceed..It took two calls before I got the guy on the phone and he was pissed, scared, angry, threatening, remorseful..everythi ng..It turns out the reason he had stopped making payments was he had been playing some shell games with the money between the record company, MV’s earnings and MV’s investments and just did not have any additional money..In addition, MV was not sure she wanted to continue on with what had been happening and so our mystery guy might be completely out of the picture.
I actually think the record company to this day has no idea what went on as the Guy was very good at what he does/did and knew how to make sure the record company was always happy..He stayed under budget, toured, made MV available, and made the record company money..
So a meeting was arranged in my office and S and MV finally met face to face..they had never done so, even though it was S who made MV a star. MV was rude to say the least when she saw what S looked like and it really upset me although S being her normal classy self could have cared less..
What we agreed to do that day was to provide S with one lump sum rather than a monthly income which was easier for Guy to pull off and S also agreed to never disclose her role in this drama and MV was on her own for future recordings and tours.
This involved literally millions of CD’s and hundreds of concerts all over the world. The one thing I did get out of this beside my fee of course is a Gold Record autographed by S and by MV. I know it is the only one in the world.
MV has been or is currently married.
UPDATES:
To borrow a phrase from Ted C, MV ain’t: Mandy Moore, Pink, Norah Jones, Beyonce
MV has at least one child.
MV has been separated (real separation and not just kicking the guy out for a couple of days) and/or divorced at least once. Tomorrow’s final clue will eliminate one of your favorite guesses.
The final clue is MV was born in the United States.
The first comment/subject I want to address is the S/MV item. The only thing I will say is I will not confirm or deny anything. I really cannot do that. However, with that being said, one thing I will say about myself is that I love my friends, and if you are my friend you know you will not get trashed here or behind your back or anywhere else. Some of you have guessed a certain person and I make very clear in another entry that she is a really good friend of mine and therefore could not be the correct guess. Also, she reads the blog, so be nice. lol
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Another Milli Vanilli Clue
CDAN – Well, if it is anniversary time, then it must be time for an MV clue. I don’t know if I have mentioned this before, but should something happen to me, there is a list of all the answers so all would be revealed. Anyway, lets see if we can’t get this down to just a few people with this clue. Either our singer or someone she has been married to has had a nickname or a hyphenation in their nickname.
BG Note: MV is short for Milli Vanilli, a singer who allegedly doesn’t do all her own singing. Thanks to ctkat1 for all of the MV clues, along with the dates they were originally posted:
11/9/10- Either our singer or someone she has been married to has had a nickname or a hyphenation in their nickname.
11/13/09- MV was born in the United States.
11/12/09- MV has been separated (real separation and not just kicking the guy out for a couple of days) and/or divorced at least once.
11/11/09- MV has at least one child.
11/10/09- MV ain’t Mandy Moore, Pink, Norah Jones, Beyonce.
11/9/09- MV has/had several Top 40 songs and CD’s. They could have gone to #1 or languished in the 30’s
11/9/09- MV has been or is currently married.
11/27/06- Someone who knows MV, but does not know about the S situation told me this morning that MV was contemplating an in depth interview to address some issues in her personal and professional life. Could this be one of the issues?
11/26/06- Original MV story, in which we learn that S. is a backup singer who was tricked into recording all of the albums, “live” concerts, etc. for MV, who has sold millions of albums and sold out tours. (MV- Milli Vanilli)
“This woman (S) came into my office because the payments she had been receiving had stopped and she wanted to either get the money that was owed to her, or expose what she had been doing to the light of day..”
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http://blindgossip.com/?p=23262
So?? who do you think it is? No one has been able to solve it and no one seems to come to an agreement as to who "Milli Vanilli" really is.
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It's JLo. No other choices would fit.
Yes, her first album was in 1999, but her sound changes a LOT between On the 6 to J.Lo (which also happens to be the album that contains "Play" "I'm Real" "Ain't It Funny" etc). She had a set of concerts in a mini tour for J.Lo, which she called "Let's Get Loud" in 2001. Her next studio album, This is Me Then, does even better in terms of memorable hits, and then there's a gap in albums in 2006.
She got married to Marc Anthony, who she's even said in public helped build her confidence in her own voice, and she released 2007's spanish album "Como ama tuna mujer"
everything fits.
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This is interesting 
Interesting to hear what people come up with.
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i thought it was known this was britney.
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Brit
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Originally posted by wanderlust
i thought it was known this was britney.
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it can't be Brit because the times don't add up, and we have heard her ad-lib, sing randomly, etc and sound like her studio voice.
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Not you stealing this out of the JLO thread to get your own hit thread!
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
It's JLo. No other choices would fit.
Yes, her first album was in 1999, but her sound changes a LOT between On the 6 to J.Lo (which also happens to be the album that contains "Play" "I'm Real" "Ain't It Funny" etc). She had a set of concerts in a mini tour for J.Lo, which she called "Let's Get Loud" in 2001. Her next studio album, This is Me Then, does even better in terms of memorable hits, and then there's a gap in albums in 2006.
She got married to Marc Anthony, who she's even said in public helped build her confidence in her own voice, and she released 2007's spanish album "Como ama tuna mujer"
everything fits.
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J Lo didn't hold up with the original clues though. There were a few that didn't add up.
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Originally posted by BeyonSea
I think it is Shakira.
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Can't be Shakira, she was born in Columbia.
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Originally posted by wanderlust
i thought it was known this was britney.
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No, it doesn't really fir Britney when you put all the clues together and as TikiMis said the safest bet would be JLo. If you're talking about the Myah Marie thing, Myah didn't start doing demos/background vocals or whatever for Britney until 2008(someone mentioned this on the How did Jlo get away with this thread).
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everyone in the comments section seems to think it's either jlo, britney or madonna. but none of them are fantastic singers so if they were faking wouldn't they have found someone with a better voice (no offence)? (unless i've completely misunderstood it, i kinda skim-read it)
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Originally posted by mariahcarey
Not you stealing this out of the JLO thread to get your own hit thread!
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Honey, if you go to the JLo thread I was THE ONE who brought up the blind item into the conversation in that thread. It was a few of us discussing it there but we went off topic with what was asked in that thread.
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Originally posted by FantasyRide
everyone in the comments section seems to think it's either jlo, britney or madonna. but none of them are fantastic singers so if they were faking wouldn't they have found someone with a better voice (no offence)? (unless i've completely misunderstood it, i kinda skim-read it)
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Well, they would have to make it believable too  I mean, it would be obvious at an interview if JLo sang/sounded like, say, Adele, and spoke in her normal thin New York voice.
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every year they add more and more hints to this, and all it confirms is that it's either J.Lo or Britney
i have always said it was j.lo because her voice sounds drastically different in her early music/there are clear examples of when other people sang for her. britney may not be known for her singing technique but that country whine can still be heard in the songs she does (if they don't autotune the **** out of them  )
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i saw this in another forum
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I think it's Christina Milian.
The guy who approached S thought that MV had "the look," which is why he took such a big risk. "The look" at that time was the ambiguously 'mixed' tanned island girl look (i.e. exxotical, as you guys call it on LSA. Think early JLo, Beyonce's Baby Boy, Ashanti's Rock Wit U, and a plethora of hip hop videos with similar looking women and themes: e.g. Big Pimpin.) which Christina naturally has.
November 2009 clues (all of which came out the year Christina Millian and The-Dream were making headlines):
#1-"MV has been or is currently married."
from Wikipedia: "On September 4, 2009, Milian and The-Dream eloped"
#2-"MV has at least one child."
from wikipedia: "On September 11, 2009, it was announced that Milian and The-Dream were expecting their first child together."
Note: This is a red herring. Many people were thinking of life outside the womb instead of inside the womb.
#3-"MV has been separated (real separation and not just kicking the guy out for a couple of days) and/or divorced at least once."
from Wikipedia: "In July 2010, The-Dream announced that he and Milian had separated in late 2009, only three months after their wedding in September of that year."
Hollywood insiders usually know about celebrity separations/divorce before the public. I could see The-Dream protecting Christina by stating that the separation occurred one month later than it actually did. Or some people count the month incorrectly (i.e. Sept=month 1, Oct=month 2, Nov=month 3).
#4 "Either our singer or someone she has been married to has had a nickname or a hyphenation in their nickname."
The-Dream
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BUT how many top 40's has CM had? like 2? 1? and the BI says a few top 40's.
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Originally posted by Superbitch
i saw this in another forum
BUT how many top 40's has CM had? like 2? 1? and the BI says a few top 40's.
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It can't be her  She has had no sellout tours that I know of, unless Kim Possible did some mall tours I haven't heard about.
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Originally posted by Superbitch
Honey, if you go to the JLo thread I was THE ONE who brought up the blind item into the conversation in that thread. It was a few of us discussing it there but we went off topic with what was asked in that thread.
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just saying
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I think it's Britney.
Literally everything except the time of the debut album matches.
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Originally posted by Chemical X.
every year they add more and more hints to this, and all it confirms is that it's either J.Lo or Britney
i have always said it was j.lo because her voice sounds drastically different in her early music/there are clear examples of when other people sang for her. britney may not be known for her singing technique but that country whine can still be heard in the songs she does (if they don't autotune the **** out of them ) |
These are the 5 I've seen being mentioned the most:
JLO #1, Britney, Madonna, Whitney, Mariah and Janet.
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