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Celeb News: Taylor removes her music from Spotify
Member Since: 2/17/2012
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Smart, the fact that the biggest artist rignt now isn't doing spotify is bad for them, it will probably end up with them writing her a bigger check.
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
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Originally posted by chilluminati
For the people who aren't necessarily huge Taylor fans, people who have never heard Taylor before, people who don't like her music enough to buy it, people who like making playlists, people who like listening before they purchase, people who don't think her music is worth the money...they'll just illegally download.
Spotify, with its large number of subscribed customers was an alternative to that for a considerable chunk of people, but not anymore. So if the intention was to take back home as much money as possible in a climate where album sales aren't even the major source of an artists' income, all this has truly done is pointed a cluster of more people in the illegal direction. Now she is getting zero revenue, from a service that was very much legal, right behind an increase in illegal downloads of her content.
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^^^^^
What's so difficult to understand about this 
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Member Since: 1/6/2012
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How greedy though.
Spotify is the best thing to happen to the industry in a long time. Y'all say, "but the artist can't make money anymore". The music itself isn't the money maker, but most celebs make money off 360 deals, touring, merchandise, promo appearances, endorsements, etc.
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Member Since: 2/17/2012
Posts: 8,023
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Originally posted by chilluminati
For the people who aren't necessarily huge Taylor fans, people who have never heard Taylor before, people who don't like her music enough to buy it, people who like making playlists, people who like listening before they purchase, people who don't think her music is worth the money...they'll just illegally download.
Spotify, with its large number of subscribed customers was an alternative to that for a considerable chunk of people, but not anymore. So if the intention was to take back home as much money as possible in a climate where album sales aren't even the major source of an artists' income, all this has truly done is pointed a cluster of more people in the illegal direction. Now she is getting zero revenue, from a service that was very much legal, right behind an increase in illegal downloads of her content.
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She will lose like 29k not that much, those ppl can still hear her on Youtube and on the Radio.
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Member Since: 3/12/2012
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YES! I love her for this. 
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Member Since: 2/8/2014
Posts: 23,320
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this is such a smart idea though
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Member Since: 12/31/2008
Posts: 3,312
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Lol at the greedy comment. It`s oblivious that she`s not doing this cause she want more money, she has more than enough.
It`s clear that she is making a statement.
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Member Since: 1/13/2012
Posts: 13,577
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It's not that difficult to understand. Streaming will kill the industry. No longer will musicans get fair pay. as if they didn't struggle before, and I'm not just talking about the successful ones. This is for the industry as a whole
Free music, or music this cheap is disrespectful for the craft.
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
Posts: 6,744
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Originally posted by Wicked
Those are two different eras and is a useless comparison.
Streaming is a legal alternative to buying an album.
Taking your music off that platform is forcing someone to buy your music to listen to it, I don't even think you can stream her entire albums on YouTube, a lot of her vids that aren't official have a sped up pitch.
It's a selfish move on her part.
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Very much so.
I'm sure some of those who pay £10.99 or whatever per month will be just be downloading illegally when it comes to her albums. After all, not everyone on Spotify is streaming music for free like people are trying to suggest. If that were the case, it wouldn't exist. Its premium feature is thriving for a multitude of reasons.
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Member Since: 9/7/2011
Posts: 7,766
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Originally posted by Yarotska
Do you have receipts? Because last time I checked, RED sold 4 million copies and was the highest selling album of 2012 while not relying heavily on Spotify.
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Pretty sure that 21 was the highest seller of 2012. And 2011.
US sales 2012
21 - 4.42 million
Red - 3.11 million
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Member Since: 6/9/2012
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I read online she was still on the Beats app
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Member Since: 6/29/2012
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Mess. That's just asking people to illegally download. I kinda lost respect for Taylor doing this. I love using Spotify.
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Member Since: 4/23/2007
Posts: 6,845
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Originally posted by Devon
How greedy though.
Spotify is the best thing to happen to the industry in a long time. Y'all say, "but the artist can't make money anymore". The music itself isn't the money maker, but most celebs make money off 360 deals, touring, merchandise, promo appearances, endorsements, etc.
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So what about the writers? producers? a man behind the masterpiece? artist could get rich by appearing on commercial, million bucks deal posing their nude in magazine, but what about the whole system?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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They must all follow her choice, even if i dont like it spotify etc services are the reason that music industry hit that low. I am a collector of albums i have 149 albums and i bought only 2 albums in 2014 and none in 2013! Even tho i am a Gaga and Timberlake fan i didnt even bought ARTPOP and 20/20, they just gifted me cheek to cheek and i bought Ghost Stories and BEYONCE albums which there are not on spotify! They could just let the singles be available on spotify because when i can listen to the whole album wherever i am through my mobile, talet, laptop etc with 5euros per month there's no reason to buy the album right now, maybe next year or 2 years after if its going to be a "must have" album. When an artist could have for example 20 producers, writers etc for an album the almost 70% of the profit that makes spotify and giving it to the artist not going to be able to pay not even half of them.
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Member Since: 2/1/2012
Posts: 3,852
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Originally posted by Rentboy
Pretty sure that 21 was the highest seller of 2012. And 2011.
US sales 2012
21 - 4.42 million
Red - 3.11 million
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21 was released 2011, though. Taylor's the highest selling album released in 2012, which is what I meant to say.
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
Posts: 6,744
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Originally posted by Monceau
She will lose like 29k not that much, those ppl can still hear her on Youtube and on the Radio.
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The whole concept of listening to music is so much bigger than Youtube and the radio though? Anyone who loves their music will have a library of some sort, and want to listen to it in quality, the way it was meant to be heard. For some people...hell, a lot...illegal downloads is where most of their library comes from. When an album is released, how many of you rush to listen to it on Youtube when you can get it in high quality form? Exactly.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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wait a ****ing minute, Who knows if taylor's decision is definitive?, maybe they are just testing the market. chill out, specially if you are not her fan and don't buy her music
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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This is Taylor's controversial era! She's making statements through her ART. She really is the new Madonna 
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Member Since: 9/15/2011
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Originally posted by zach
Great!
Artists only get $0.006078 per play. 
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Let's put that in perspective. For instance, the song 'Rather Be' from Clean Bandit has more than 227.279.608 plays on Spotify. That means they got 1.38 million dollars for the streams on Spotify. In the UK the song sold over 1,1 million copies. Which pretty much equals to 1,1 million pounds in revenue (an amount that has to be shared with the label, but that's probably the same case for Spotify).
If you take into consideration that Spotify has over 40 million users, while in the UK the population is over 63 million. They've probably made more (if not the same) amount of money of those 40 million Spotify users than to those 63 million people in the UK, who had the chance to buy their song.
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