At least people remember those two number one hits.

Not the pressed katy fans calling 1989 GENERIC.

I see no lies in that title

The only concern I have is "new" queen of pop. She always has been.

I feel like since Gaga fell off, everyone is the new queen of pop (Beyonce, Taylor, Rihanna, Katy)

And yall cling on to the QOP title..

Taylor is very successful and selling records in this weak ass music industry the way she does is very telling of her power. Gotta give props to her.

Taylor Swift is extremely successful, but she's not the Queen of Pop.

Regardless of what she wants to call herself now, there's no changing the fact that Taylor started off her career as a Country artist. And I'm not not just speaking in regards to her sound -- but her radio play, singles sales success, ALBUM sales success, tour grossings, and the vast majority of her promo ALL came from the support she got from Country radio and the Country audience.

No other Pop girl got that kind of support. Not Madonna, not Janet, not Britney, not Rihanna, not Katy. Even when these girls tried it with Country they were shunned by the market that has been traditionally separated from other music genres (and, lets be real, racist).

You could argue that these girls got support from the Urban market in a way that Taylor really hasn't, but that still isn't fair. The Urban market is much small than Country, and has traditionally had closer ties to Pop. The two function as one and the same in many ways.

So considering how Taylor got most of her success and support for the majority of her career, I'm not going to say she WASN'T a Country just because she had a handful of Pop friendly songs on her albums. Without the support of Country -- she simply wouldn't be where she is today. Not even close. Hell, even now the way she talks about 1989 she makes it sound like an experiment; something "new" she's trying. How can you be the Queen of something you're just now trying out?

And since she's been Country most of this time, it just doesn't make sense to call her the Queen of Pop. It's not her category. I mean, whe might as well give the QoP/KoP title to a ton of other artists who weren't really Pop just because they sold a lot.

I laughed a bit at that thread title

But i think Taylor still have a lot to prove and still has to make a lot of iconic moment in pop industry before she can be called a queen of pop

Yes she is the Queen of Pop, you can close the thread now.

Madonna is and always will be the Queen of pop. When she dies she will still have that title. Just like Michael is still the King of pop.

If you don't know this basic fact then you are officially ignorant. Or deluded. All you pop fans so thirsty and desperate to snatch that title for your faves. Ain't happening. Not even if they sell hundreds of millions of albums like Madonna.

Seriously?