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Celeb News: Without Britney, There's no Katy, Gaga and Taylor
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Originally posted by Losing my ground
Lady Gaga and Katy Perry were songwriters on Britney's songs. Saying that, I believe Britney success relieves more on them than the other way around. Gaga and Katy make it to the top without Britney having anything to do with that.
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What in the world? 
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Originally posted by Losing my ground
What Britney did wasn't ever brilliant and could have been done by anyone, and that's not something we could say for Gaga, Katy and Taylor who truly are indistinguishable and innovative.
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NO.
Plus, yes, it could've been a brand by Jessica Simpson or whoever, but it was Britney, so you have to deal. If there wasn't a Britney, there would've never been many of today's stars, even if the Britney brand wasn't built by Britney herself, it still applies.
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Originally posted by Losing my ground
The point on reinventing the history was to prove that Britney wasn't essential and responsible of Gaga, Katy and Taylor's careers (and I understand you agree when you basically said Britney wasn't dispensable). I didn't mean to degrade her achievements, I only wanted to clarify that if she didn't make them, somebody else would, and Gaga/Katy/Taylor would be also here conquering the pop world.
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Of course she wasn't ! I totally agree on that one but... you know your "if" let me perplex. Or you're really amazing and you can predict that somebody else would have done what Britney have done. But ok, if you say so. It doesn't change the facts. If it was another girl that would have done that, we'd be saying here "well, this girl have kinda opened doors for the female artists that we have today, even if musically speaking, they're completely different". Like Madonna and Janet have opened doors for Britney, Britney have opened doors for the pop girls that came after. That's it. Britney hasn't invented pop music, or videos or performances or anything. But she was there, like some of you said, she played the role perfectly (I'm not going into that, it would be too long). This is a fact. We Britney stans totally recognize how Madonna and Janet have inspired Brit. They paved the way for her. They opened doors for her and for all the other pop girls, in a way or another. Britney has done the same at the end of the 90's when there weren't many female solo artists. What is wrong by admiting that ?
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Originally posted by Gasp
this!!
yes definitely, it's a cycle.
Madonna/Janet influenced and inspired Britney; Britney wouldn't have become a star without them.
Then Britney came around and completely changed the scene, made it possible for solo female pop stars to truly become "it girls" instead of being overshadowed by boy bands/girl groups, & ofc her sound/image was very impactful.
She opened doors for other artists in the future like the ones mentioned and tons more.
Then Rihanna came and she too has influenced the music industry/image of new female pop stars, many are trying to emulate her image/make similar songs.
It's a never-ending cycle and only a delusional, pressed soul would claim that Britney didn't have a major influence on reviving that cycle and making it possible for female pop stars to thrive, she's also the reason why Max Martin works with female pop stars today, that alone is major impact..
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Exactly.
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Originally posted by KatyLegendperry
But without Madonna there is no Britney. Everything goes back to Madonna. Plus Katy says that her main influences are Freddie Mercury, Alanis Morissette, The Beatles, and The Beach Boys plus Katy is the one who directly impacted Britney's career when she co-wrote Passenger, not the other way around.
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You mean without Janet there is no Britney. Janet had a lot more to do with Britney than Madonna did.
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Originally posted by cancer
Your logic is flawed on so many levels.
I didn't know anybody could have created the school girl uniform concept, or have been such a phenomenal dancer, or have created a pop masterpiece such as Blackout.
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You are beyond DELUSIONAL !!!
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Originally posted by Losing my ground
What charisma can somebody have when the only thing they can say is "very cool" or "very interesting"? Her interviews are boring and she never had a shocking opinion or has participated on something relevant to the public agenda. As her music, she don't have anything to do with it, she doesn't even know the name of her songs as her MTV reality showed.
The Katy/Gaga thing was: Britney is singing the songs that the other two has composed for her, she has depended more of them than the other way around. There'd be a Gaga, a Katy or a Taylor without Britney, yet Britney's current present would have changed at least a little bit if Gaga or Katy wouldn't have existed.
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Listen, I don't know how old you are but you must be really young... Do you know there is a Britney before and after breakdown. Why you're talking about the Britney of today ? I just don't get it. And I can't at you telling me Britney's career depends on Gaga and Katy , like seriously wtf ? Those two songs that you're talking about had zero impact, it's not like it had changed Britney's career or something, c'mon !
And it is not the question !
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I can't with people saying Gaga and Katy owe nothing to britney because they co-wrote/wrote songs to/with her, noting that Gaga only worked with Britney in 2008 (10 years after Britney debuted) and Katy was only recently as well.
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Originally posted by Losing my ground
So you're saying Britney is a genius because she thought a plot on one or two music videos of her?  You know what's more innovative? Directing them as Gaga, or make a film as Katy.
Britney has not charisma at all. Her performances are boring (except on her old days when her stronger point was her dance), her interviews leave us nothing and her life only was interesting during her breakdown. The only thing she left us are messy Internet memes.
+ Katy Perry is a great songwriter, she made all her smash number #1 songs and her albums are pretty solid. Her music videos are a lot better than Britney's videography and she's one of the most watched artists on VEVO. She has charisma, a solid career and an interesting life.
Taylor Swift compose all of her music, her country/pop duality is also distinctive for her and her private life is gold for those teen magazines.
Lady Gaga and Katy Perry were songwriters on Britney's songs. Saying that, I believe Britney success relieves more on them than the other way around. Gaga and Katy make it to the top without Britney having anything to do with that. |
What? Britney came up with the concpets of ALL her videos, and her videos were always enjoyable to watch unlike some others who are hit and miss. Do you know what innovative even means child? It means to do something DIFFERENT what has directing your team to make bad videos like Marry the Night or bad cheesy fillms like Part of Me have to do with this? 
No charisma? Tell that to all the fans she gained instantly from whenever interview of hers aired. She knew exactly what to do to appeal and entertain everyone on and off stage.
Writing a hit doesn't make you a good songwriter.These days, it's quite the opposite because the general public only seem to like basic song writing these days. Gaga's a great songwriter though.
Katy's videos don't go anywhere near Britney's. Britney's self titled era videos demolish Katy's and her kiddie videos. Cali Girls, Dark Horse, Wide Awake etc. are a cookie cutter mess.
Gaga and Katy wrote NONE of Britney's hits. You're just GRASPING at straws now
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Katy Perry's hits like IKAG, Cali Girls and Teenage Dream are Max Martin produced songs with an All American pop star singing them with a hint of sexuality while remaining family friendly. That's the image of Britney circa 2000.
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Aretha then Whitney not Britney paved the way for vocal powerhouses (gaga can be added to that list). And as far as I'm concerned the queen of Pop (Madge) and Janet are the ones responsible for all the girls in popdom being here. Janet of course doesn't get her due credit but she too influenced many artists. Britney herself stanned Madge & MJ and was a white copy of Janet. Her sound, the dancing, her voice (Janet has a smooth pop-r&b voice). It's why I got into her.
Gaga wanted to make it as a pop/rock or jazz singer but switched to pure pop because her label told her she would sell more this way. And FYI she was a song writer as well, she wrote for several people before and after making it big, Britney included.
Katy was a gospel chick when she started and probably switched to pop like gaga did for the same reason. Her original sound was more rock pop acoustic. Katy can probably do country pop like Taylor.
Taylor is a country girl who can write good stuff, I can't at her being dragged into this discussion. She JUST switched to pop and SIO sounds nothing like what Britney would do. Hell we haven't even heard the rest of 1989 to make Taylor pop comparisons  ! The fact that Tay has worked with Max Martin means **** because gaga has never worked with any of Britney's producers. 4 pop Taylor songs total and she's compared to Britney? !!!
Now, did Britney have a big influence in pop? She sure did. And she most certainly did influence the newer pop girls. But you're wrong if you think she was the only one or that it's all about her. Especially when she too was influenced by others before her. the army of all fan bases leaving Madonna out like that, mess!
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Originally posted by Istan4R
They forgot Miley, Selena, Demi but yes! Madonna and Britney the teaching the others. In a few years Rih is already inspiring girls like Tinashe
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Miley and Selena were influenced by Britney. Demi was influenced by Christina and Kelly Clarkson. But legend X and Kelly had Mariah, Whitney, Madge, etc as their influences. Same with Britney. It's a beautiful cycle IMO and a testament to the accomplishments of these artists. That you can inspire/influence a new generation of artists  .
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no, without avril there would be no taylor, without madonna/bowie there would be no gaga, and without dr luke there would be no katy perry.
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