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Discussion: Why Doesn't The U.S government Handle Ebola Better??
Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Why Doesn't The U.S government Handle Ebola Better??
Seriously. The government should've shut down immigration from West African nations long ago. Now, we have just had the first U.S citizen die from Ebola and there's no telling what will happen. Why is the government not doing anything to fight the spread of Ebola ???? When I look up information about this, all I get are politicians talking about how shutting down the border will worsen West African nations' economies and will not stop the spread of Ebola. I can't take this crap.  What do you guys think?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Well with the death of Thomas Duncan and the possible contraction of another US citizen, they are know taking the temp of every passenger arriving from west Africa. A little late now tho...
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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They probably wanna kill some of us lolz
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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A high temp only appears after the onset of the disease though. You can still carry the virus and not have a high temp.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by BlondGuts
A high temp only appears after the onset of the disease though. You can still carry the virus and not have a high temp.
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Yeah I know, I was trying to highlight the pathetic attempt at a 'solution". Like the real solution is to shut off the border but that'll never happen 
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Member Since: 11/27/2010
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Instead of issuing a travel ban to and from these countries Obama instead responds to yet another crisis with a woefully inadequate solution...just like the 2008 economic crisis and ISIS. Obama needs handle these situations better. He's putting academics over good old fashioned common sense. The Nigerian model for how to stamp out Ebola worked for them. it's the blue print for handling Ebola. He should've been shut down all air traffic from African countries...and ordered screenings at all airports and border crossings. Yes it's big government but sometimes that is what you need to find and stamp out a disease that kills within days of contact.
THIS is Obama's Katrina moment.
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Member Since: 6/22/2012
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Shutting down the border would be ideal, but it's expensive
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Member Since: 11/27/2010
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Originally posted by BlazingLovatic
Shutting down the border would be ideal, but it's expensive
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They need to do it anyway.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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He probably wants it to spread so the population goes down. It's completely ridiculous that we're allowing travel to and from infected countries.
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Member Since: 6/22/2012
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Originally posted by seanoh
He probably wants it to spread so the population goes down. It's completely ridiculous that we're allowing travel to and from infected countries.
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Even if he banned it, there would be a media uproar about "Obama leaving US citizens to die of Ebola in x country"
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Member Since: 11/27/2010
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Originally posted by BlazingLovatic
Even if he banned it, there would be a media uproar about "Obama leaving US citizens to die of Ebola in x country"
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I doubt it. If US citizens want to get treatment then that's fine. We know them and they can be quarantined on return to the US. However, just leaving the borders wide open is a no go. Plus you are exposing the flight crew and pilots etc... Its irresponsible.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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They are actually dealing with it okay right now. They are putting contact tracing into full effect, and it looks like the only cases that will pop up in the US on occasion will be completely isolated ones.
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Because the average American is more at risk from the common cold than they are Ebola.
It's so sad and awful that that person died, don't get me wrong but on a statistical point of view, it's not a major concern right now, as I said you're more at risk from the common cold.
It makes sense the government isn't rushing around placing quarantine's on everyone and everything and shutting down airports because the truth it, at this stage there's no need.
There is something that doesn't make sense though, the hysteria and panic that is sweeping the US.
Though, it does make sense when you think about it a little deeper. When you're all in hysterics and panicked about Ebloa, you forget that rich people in America don't pay taxes.
When you're scared about Ebola, you forget that a short time ago a young black unarmed child was shot dead by a white police officer.
When you're concerned about getting really sick, you forget your country is involved in a war that so far has killed 500k innocent people.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by BlondGuts
Seriously. The government should've shut down immigration from West African nations long ago.
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The only US case AT ALL has nothing to do with immigration whatsoever.
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Now, we have just had the first U.S citizen die from Ebola and there's no telling what will happen. Why is the government not doing anything to fight the spread of Ebola ????
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What will happen is that this person and any infected contacts will be treated as usual; what the hell do you expect them to do? They're already tracking every person he came close to and monitoring them.
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When I look up information about this, all I get are politicians talking about how shutting down the border will worsen West African nations' economies and will not stop the spread of Ebola. I can't take this crap. What do you guys think?
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That's the absolute damn truth though because the risk from immigration is negligible, near zero.
They're doing quite literally all they should be doing.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by Adonis
Instead of issuing a travel ban to and from these countries Obama instead responds to yet another crisis with a woefully inadequate solution...just like the 2008 economic crisis and ISIS. Obama needs handle these situations better. He's putting academics over good old fashioned common sense. The Nigerian model for how to stamp out Ebola worked for them. it's the blue print for handling Ebola. He should've been shut down all air traffic from African countries...and ordered screenings at all airports and border crossings. Yes it's big government but sometimes that is what you need to find and stamp out a disease that kills within days of contact.
THIS is Obama's Katrina moment.
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Obama has absolutely zero to do with the situation until it becomes literally a top level emergency.
Why does everyone seem to think everything is the President's fault, or that the President has some sort of all-encompassing power to do whatever he wants without repercussions? It's not like that. It's not as simple as, "Obama shuts down travel to and from these countries and magically it's all alright." There are other factors, there are consequences, there is the issue of feasibility.
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Member Since: 11/4/2006
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Originally posted by Bey_Rihstan
They probably wanna kill some of us lolz
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You know what, I had thoughts about that. They saved those two white people, but they could not save this Texas black man? What is really going on?
I feel like this Ebola thing is just another huge distraction. Why is it spreading across the globe all of a sudden when Ebola has been around.? It's a not a new disease. This is not the first time people have gone in and out in Africa.
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Member Since: 4/7/2009
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Because they need something to distract us from ISIS, which they used ISIS to distract us from Ferguson and so on. Keep up luv, we invented the thing called scare tactic.
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Member Since: 8/12/2007
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
Because the average American is more at risk from the common cold than they are Ebola.
It's so sad and awful that that person died, don't get me wrong but on a statistical point of view, it's not a major concern right now, as I said you're more at risk from the common cold.
It makes sense the government isn't rushing around placing quarantine's on everyone and everything and shutting down airports because the truth it, at this stage there's no need.
There is something that doesn't make sense though, the hysteria and panic that is sweeping the US.
Though, it does make sense when you think about it a little deeper. When you're all in hysterics and panicked about Ebloa, you forget that rich people in America don't pay taxes.
When you're scared about Ebola, you forget that a short time ago a young black unarmed child was shot dead by a white police officer.
When you're concerned about getting really sick, you forget your country is involved in a war that so far has killed 500k innocent people.
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THANK YOU. Americans get so easily side tracked.
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Member Since: 11/27/2010
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Originally posted by Retro
Obama has absolutely zero to do with the situation until it becomes literally a top level emergency.
Why does everyone seem to think everything is the President's fault, or that the President has some sort of all-encompassing power to do whatever he wants without repercussions? It's not like that. It's not as simple as, "Obama shuts down travel to and from these countries and magically it's all alright." There are other factors, there are consequences, there is the issue of feasibility.
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I think problems should be delt with before they become a top level emergency. People are not giving this strain of Ebola the full respect it deserves and just like ISIS and the Economic Crisis. Obama is not treating these situations with the full seriousness they deserve. Watered down solutions and platitudes about how "we've got the situation under control" when its been proven we dont will not cut it. We need bold decisive action and accountability at all levels if government.
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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Scientists have warned that the deadly virus could spread across the world infecting people from the U.S. to China within three weeks.
There is a 50 per cent chance a traveller carrying the disease could touch down in the UK by October 24, a team of U.S. researchers have predicted.
Using Ebola spread patterns and airline traffic data they have calculated the odds of the virus spreading across the world.
They estimate there is a 75 per cent chance Ebola will reach French shores by October 24.
And Belgium has a 40 per cent chance of seeing the disease arrive on its territory, while Spain and Switzerland have lower risks of 14 per cent each.
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It looks scarier than it is.
After all, Ebola was discovered by a scientist working in a lab in my city.
It was flown from Congo to my city in a vacuum flask by a normal passenger. The scientist was young and optimistic to solve it and flown to Africa to discover how it spreads and how to contain it. He overcame cultural differences and taught the local populations how to contain it.
Back in the 70s, there was less protection available.
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In the absence of any vaccine or cure, the advice for this outbreak is much the same as it was in the 1970s. "Soap, gloves, isolating patients, not reusing needles and quarantining the contacts of those who are ill - in theory it should be very easy to contain Ebola," says Piot.
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Basically the same recipe as in the 70s. Only thing new about it, is that it started in African countries that didn't suffered from it in the past. This means that they have to get through the cultural changes before they can contain it too.
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Ebola changed Piot's life - following the discovery of the virus, he went on to research the Aids epidemic in Africa and became the founding executive director of the UNAIDS organisation.
"It led me to do things I thought only happened in books. It gave me a mission in life to work on health in developing countries," he says.
"It was not only the discovery of a virus but also of myself."
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It changed his life. It's much more exciting to go to far places, discover things, find solutions,... than just working 9 to 5 in an office.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28262541
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