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Discussion: Virginity - social construct?
Member Since: 4/28/2011
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Virginity - social construct?
See, this thought came to my head while reading a thread regarding a child molestation. This female, who shall remain nameless, was sexually assaulted as a minor by two men which resulted in the loss of her virginity. Yet, a further comment in this thread claimed that "virginity is merely a social construct" - it is a term giving priority, credence by the Western world.
Thus, losing one's virginity is not the first time you've had sexual intercourse but at the time when you willingly, knowingly give up the claim over your body to another being. Me, I believe there could be some truth in this idea since we're, as my lecturer says, born into a world in which we have no preconceived ideas or notions. We're elastic, easily culpable, malleable into whichever shape the external world wishes us to be.
Again, I'm not intending to infuriate nor cause grief; if this thread has, then please understood i have no masochistic notions. I would like to hear your views and what you feel, if the statement has much truth to it and what you define 'virginity' as?
Thanks.
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Losing your virginity does not make you worth less. 
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In my opinion, loss of virginity is when someone first experiences penetration, usually indicated (in women) by the "cherry pop". For a man, it'd be the first time he inserts his penis into a vagina or anus.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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What exactly are you asking? 
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Member Since: 6/12/2011
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Originally posted by .aR
Losing your virginity does not make you worth less. 
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Member Since: 5/7/2012
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but at the time when you willingly, knowingly give up the claim over your body to another being.
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This is what I think too. If somebody was raped I wouldn't count that as losing their virginity, because you give your virginity to somebody and obviously they didn't willingly give it to them in that circumstance.
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Losing your virginity can be a big deal or not, it just depends on how seriously you take sex.
A person being a "virgin" as a part of their identity is more or less bollocks.
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Member Since: 1/19/2012
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For me it's when you do something that's not "pure" so any type of sexual experience. Even in the case of molestation unfortunately
But then again I suppose there is a big difference between saying "I lost my virginity" and "He/She took my virginity". Idk this is too deep to get into.
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Losing your virginity has negative connotations to it, as if once you've had sex you've lost your worth, or innocence or purity. It's also used as leverage against women to oppress them, if you're not a virgin you're a *****, as if a man touching you makes you less of a human being.
It is a social construct and it's a negative, useless and oppressive social construct. The faster we can stop defining human beings by whether or not they've engaged in coitus, the better.
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Member Since: 8/7/2010
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I mean... Yeah. Everything that humans go through is socially constructed.
So yes virginity is a social construct.
It's not even that big a deal because sex is just a part of life. Meh.
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Member Since: 4/28/2011
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Originally posted by Ferrer
What exactly are you asking? 
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If losing one's virginity is a purely physical thing, or a state of mind/soul.
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Member Since: 4/28/2011
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What can seem infuriating is when one deems a loss of virginity as being 'less pure' when that couldn't be further than the truth, right?
Or is that presumptuous of me?
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Originally posted by TheVoiceXtina
If losing one's virginity is a purely physical thing, or a state of mind/soul.
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Oh well I think the latter definitely.
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I don't think there's a definitive answer. In my opinion you lose it when you're first penetrated or penetrate someone else, but it's not like I'd try to enforce that view on someone else, especially not a rape victim. It just depends on how you view it; for some losing your virginity is one of the most special moments of their life and for others it's just sex, neither idea is 'wrong'. Definitely think there's far too much emphasis put on purity associated with it though, especially for women.
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I think it's a bit of both state of mind and the physical aspect of it.
I really hate when people say sex or losing your virginity isn't a big deal though because it is especially when it's taken from you...
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I don't really a definitive answer.. But to word it the best possible way, I define "virginity" as losing your innocence. People can be far from the social definition of "innocent" and still be a virgin, but what I mean by losing your "innocence" is the innocence of the body, if that makes sense. Body = lust = sex = sin. The word virginity comes from religion, does it not? If it doesn't, I apologize for my ignorance. I'm not religious at all but that's the way I view the ties between virginity and innocence. Once the innocence of the body is gone, the virginity is gone.
Hope I made sense. I like everyone elses opinions as well.
Edit: As for the fact if it's by choice or not, I think if rape is a factor, the innocence of the soul & body is taken by force, but the WILL to lose your virginity by choice is still intact. It's a mixture of thoughts for me and I'd have to contemplate some more to actually differentiate. For realistic purposes, rape is a big freakin deal and yes, the virginity is gone.
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I think it's a two way thing, where two people consent to have sex. If it's the first time, that is losing/giving your virginity.
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Originally posted by highwayuni
For me it's when you do something that's not "pure" so any type of sexual experience. Even in the case of molestation unfortunately
But then again I suppose there is a big difference between saying "I lost my virginity" and "He/She took my virginity". Idk this is too deep to get into.
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Are you joking or do you genuinely believe sex makes you impure?
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