I'm bored of this lol

It's so goddamn BARE, it's sad how we can't get a complete game just so they can sell expansion packs.

Nah, Sims 3 Base Game >>>> TS2 Base Game

Yea... after some playtime my opinion on this base game has DROPPED very far. The Sims 2 and 3 remain superior base games, because they're more than just "potential". I mean, with a few EP's and such, I can imagine TS4 knocking TS3 (atleast, but maybe even TS2?) out of the park but we'll have to wait and see.

Not that TS4 is bad, because what it does, it does better than previous games (mostly) but it's just not enough overall for a full-price base-game experience. It's too damn bare.

After the mixed reaction I think EA will be very happy with that

Wait TS4 actually outsold TS3 1st week Sales ? Nnnnnn

Played the game for 2 minutes and got bored.

The female hairstyles aren't good enough, so create-a-sim is boring, and you have less customization than TS3.

Build mode and Live mode interfaces are a mess.

What was the point of switching the function of the scroll wheel and the right click for camera controls?

They really don't care about their fans at all

I wouldn't buy it. You're better off playing 2 or 3. This game has little to give outside of Create-A-Sim. It depends on which you like better: creating sims or playing sims. If you want to make sims for some sim art fan page or something then 4 is the way to go but if you actually want to play the game then stay away from this.

They should be, tbh. It could've been a lot worse for them after the stunt they pulled.

There's no statistics to say for sure. I'll honestly guess no, tbh. I imagine that most of the sales are probably physical anyway (judging by the kind of audience that buy The Sims). Maybe it could be close, though? Who knows? It's just the negative fan backlash and the lukewarm reception has me questionable on whether or not it could've really outsold The Sims 3.

You can switch back to the Sims 3 camera options from the options menu.

Enlighten me guys.

Apart from Open World, WHAT is there to do in The Sims 3? Like In The Sims 4 you have all the Aspiration tasks, whereas The Sims 3 has one task. Jobs just require skills in The Sims 3, now you have things you need to do to get a promotion, and tasks you need to fulfill etc.
I could go on.

I feel like if you took the Open World factor (which basically adds nothing to gameplay except something to look at) The Sims 3 literally has nothing going for it at all. Outside Wishes and Lifetime Aspirations (both done better in The Sims 4 since there's more to them) The Sims 3 offers nothing that The Sims 2 did.

Of course, there were some things to do once Expansion Packs were installed, but the base game of The Sims 3 literaly had nothing to it.

I just have no idea what you guys seen in it apart from Open World and Create-A-Style, which both add nothing to gameplay except something to look at.

VGChartz suggests that TS4 sold about 400-500k it's first week. A let down from TS3 but really not too bad, especially when they destroyed all their own hype for the game.

That includes Physical Sales only, though.
The Sims 4 actually sold more Physical Copies than The Sims 3.

The Sims 3 only sold 327k in Physical Sales first week.

And due to the Pixelation bug that came with The Sims 4, a lot of people (ATRL as an example) gave up and bought the game on Origin.

We need to know how much the game sold digitally, but The Sims 4 is ahead so far.

The Sims 3 offered a ton of new things that TS2 didnt, yes the open world & CAST were the biggest features but there was also a lot more, it was the sims 3 that intoriduced traits & a wode variety at that, did you have cars/bikes in TS2 base game? Nope. Could you grow and harvest fruit and vegetables in TS2 base Game? Nope. TS3 also gave you new control over your career&school by lettijg you choose whether they worked hatd, slacked off, talked to friends & you could actually see where you went to work/go to school, yea it was rabbit holes but it was still a cool feature that you couldnt do in TS2. The introduction of a much wider aspiration points store. The introduction of moodlets that let us see how our sik felt and how it affected the gameplay. You could go and visit your neighbour, the world around you grew with you, none of this happened in TS2 base game. TS3 was a leap foward, Ts4 may be a step foward with certain aspects of gameplay but compared to the other base games it seems like a step back. It will get better with EPs of course but we're comparin it to ither base games.

The traits were cool, but they didn't really effect the Sims overall. They mostly just changed the Moodlets, which again. They improved it in The Sims 4 by directly affecting your Sims, and you are able to have up to 12 traits in The Sims 4 as well.

The Sims 4 goes even further with Gardening as well.

Seeing where you went to work is nice, but it wasn't game changing. After the first time, there's no real wow factor. It's just something to look at.

I do like the Work Hard/Slack Off feature, but The Sims 4 has that as well. Visiting Neighbours is great also, finally had that ability. It felt long overdue.

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I feel like those are all nice additions rather than new core gameplay elements (Moodlets and Traits are Core Gameplay and obviously The Sims 4 takes them to new levels). But like comparing Job Promotions in TS3 > TS4 or Children getting better at school, throwing Parties, Weddings etc. Have all so much depth into them, that the previous games never had.

I think the main problem with The Sims 4 is that it takes all the core "Sims" features and takes them deeper than the other games. But by doing that, they didn't really bring anything new to the table.

The Sims 4 is kinda less about expanding the franchise and sort of more adding depth to the current system. Like The Sims 3 Lifetime Aspiration has one goal, where this has like 10 goals etc.

I played it today after like 1 week and it is so boring Glad that I didn't buy it.

The open world was useless in The Sims 3 because I never went anywhere unless I had to. There was nobody to interact with at lots so what was the point really?

I think I've visited more TS4 community lots in three weeks than I did in years of TS3.

Just wait until The Sims 4 has actual shops and actual restaurants with people in them.

Gonna be so good

I'm still on Sims 4's side. Just waiting for the really good mods to be announced to spice it up a bit.

And unfortunately that's the problem. As of right now it isn't a solid base game.