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Discussion: Why is Anaconda considered a solo song?
Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Yogosans, let's try to calm down and use arguments, please.
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Member Since: 8/27/2011
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Originally posted by Fantasea.
So what does Nicki have to it? Change it so that she says the chorus herself? Y'all so damn ridiculous and don't know hip hop. |
She doesn't have to do anything? Anaconda is fine. It's just not a solo original composition.
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Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Originally posted by Neonika
im guessing you dont leave the house a lot  |
He is right, and whether he does or not has nothing to do with this thread.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by DevonRoars
The song's success comes from the video tbh
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I agree that the video helped and it went viral because of it, but just check the line they are all tweeting... exactly. Nicki sold the song because she's a big star, also had a controversial video, BUT that line helped the song big time, too.
In my opinion tho, I'm just another member of ATRL haha
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Member Since: 10/1/2011
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Originally posted by Inception
Except they don't. Just like in "Good Feeling" all anyone knows is "Ooooh sometimes I get a good feeling, yeah". The song is constructed completely around the sample and relies on it solely for its success. "Good Feeling" is essentially Etta James' song, as "Anaconda" is Sir Mix-a-Lot's song.
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How are you going to gauge what people know from a song or not? Who are you to even speak on what people know or not?
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
He is right, and whether he does or not has nothing to do with this thread.
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drag me hunTy
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by HonourableVomit
I agree, it is going to be a big problem especially in hip hop. I have no problem with them used artistically, but I don't consider a solo artist's work if the majority of their song, including the main appeal, is airlifted from another.
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Yep. This is exactly right. The sample is not used artistically or creatively, it is placed there, because without it, the song is nothing.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by havefaithrestart
I agree that the video helped and it went viral because of it, but just check the line they are all tweeting... exactly. Nicki sold the song because she's a big star, also had a controversial video, BUT that line helped the song big time, too.
In my opinion tho, I'm just another member of ATRL haha
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Member Since: 10/1/2011
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Originally posted by HonourableVomit
She doesn't have to do anything? Anaconda is fine. It's just not a solo original composition.
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Of course it isn't an original composition. Who disputed that? There's a sample in there.
You tried to create a thread on some **** talking about Iggy, as if that's going to change Anaconda being a solo song or change anything that Nicki's done.
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
He is right, and whether he does or not has nothing to do with this thread.
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People will deflect any argument away from the main point if it is made evident they are losing. It is a common practice.
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Member Since: 4/20/2011
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I thought the same thing but did not want to say it...
Her barz on the song are soo weak, the sample carries the song and makes it worth listening to and for the video she made sure it was controversial by showcasing her body to make it worth watching.
She wanted a Quick hit and got it but it's not going to help push her album sales
The single cover and video will be remembered more than the song itself.
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People only listened to ***Flawless because of the Star Search sample.
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Same reason Right Round is considered a solo Flo Rida song
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Artemisia
People only listened to ***Flawless because of the Star Search sample.
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Don't do Chimamanda like that 
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Member Since: 1/8/2012
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Originally posted by HonourableVomit
She doesn't have to do anything? Anaconda is fine. It's just not a solo original composition.
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Please educate yourself on the concept of sampling. 
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by DevonRoars
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ok? I was being nice and trying to say my opinion, you should redirect that gif to the people actually hating on Nicki or saying that's a remix... Never said the success of the song has to do with that line but that it helped it big time, but ok 
Have a nice day, I guess.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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So many artists sample songs, but now that Nicki's hit has a sample, it should be considered a feature? 
No I don't think so.
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Member Since: 11/11/2009
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Quote:
Originally posted by HonourableVomit
I agree, it is going to be a big problem especially in hip hop. I have no problem with them used artistically, but I don't consider a solo artist's work if the majority of their song, including the main appeal, is airlifted from another.
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Rappers are definitely taking the sampling too far, creating entire careers out of it. That is called DJing. Hip-Hop is based off sampling, but that is because when Hip-Hop originated, it was DJs who were sampling. Sampling was almost required for Hip-Hop artists back then because it was way cheaper and easier to rap over a sample than create a track from scratch. The same with a lot of indie rappers today. They make mixtapes that use samples a lot but that's because it's easier than creating a song from scratch and they don't have the money for expensive equipment. I understand that style of sampling. What I don't understand is Pop artists like Nicki who have the power to work with millions of talented producers but rely on an already widely-known song to get a hit. Unless you're going to add something meaningful to the sample, why bother?
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by Willy.
How are you going to gauge what people know from a song or not? Who are you to even speak on what people know or not?
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The purpose of a hook in music is that it always attempts to be remembered by the human brain. Composers of mainstream pop music specialize in attempting to create a memorable chorus, because without that, how will a song become a mainstream success? It is the case with nearly every mainstream popular song. It is commonly known that the chorus of any song will be the most remembered (and in many cases, if not all, the only thing to be remembered after its fall from current popularity). This is especially made evident on a song like "Anaconda" where the song is mainly comprised of "filler rapping" (a common practice on many mainstream "rap" songs, look at Flo Rida and Pitbull for reference), with a strong hook chorus usually either sung by another artist or sampled, as it is done so here. In the end, it matters not who I am. In relation to this discussion, the only thing that matters are facts, and it is simply a fact that any mainstream "rap" song of this variety will always be known for their chorus. It is simply how the human brain functions, and how these types of songs were manufactured.
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