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Stats: $83,040,746 - ArtRave Boxscores & Receipts - Official Thread
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Originally posted by Dr.Cake
You're false.
The 2nd Sidney show had the highest seating tier curtained, just like the 2nd Melbourne and Perth shows. There is no need to try to fake or cover up things. We just have to face the facts and admit that Gaga struggled this time around with her Australian leg (tough it did better than most of us expected). And that's mostly because of lack of any promo (besides the fact that she didn't promote the album at all over there, not even the shows were promoted. There were no commercials constantly airing on TV and almost no adds at all). I'm sure she just wanted to tour Australia for her most loyal fans, not because there was a high demand in that country or that she could milk some cash out of them, but also because dropping Australia from her touring schedule would probably mean the end of her career over there. Even tough she performed for only a quarter of how many people she performed back in 2012 with the BTWBT, avoiding those 50,000 loyal fans that wanted to see her again only 2 years later would have had a pretty bad impact on her reputation over there.
Live Nation aren't stupid, Australia is one of the world's biggest touring markets and you cannot avoid it and expect people over there to care that much anymore for you (probably unless you're Madonna).
So, as I said, the lack of hits combined with the fact that most aussies didn't even know she released a new record, had a new tour and a album to promote affected the demand there once was. The point is that there is no need to be OVERREACTING because she can just as easily jump back on the train if she does the right things and the right promo. I'm sure of it. All these people that saw her back in 2012 already knew she was crazy, that her latest singles flopped in their country, that she isn't as popular anymore as she once was, yet they still paid for tickets to see her and that merely because she promoted her record and her concerts over there and people knew what to expect.
It's funny to see those overreactions tho, it's like people pretend her touring career is over now just because she couldn't sell as many tickets in Australia as she once did. Calm down guys, she's only 6 years into her career, if she plays her cards right, she can just as easily jump back.
But anyway, let's just leave it behind. The leg is over and we can now focus on the great part of the tour: the stadiums. We got nice shows coming up and we shouldn't dismiss the success of this tour just because she didn't do as good as other in some specific markets.
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
You guys need to stop arguing over the Australian dates.
None of them have sold out. Infact tonights show in Sydney has a massive red curtain covering more than half of the seating areas. Australia wasn't a success but that's not to say other areas of the world won't be.
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Originally posted by Dr.Cake
You're false.
The 2nd Sidney show had the highest seating tier curtained, just like the 2nd Melbourne and Perth shows. There is no need to try to fake or cover up things. We just have to face the facts and admit that Gaga struggled this time around with her Australian leg (tough it did better than most of us expected). And that's mostly because of lack of any promo (besides the fact that she didn't promote the album at all over there, not even the shows were promoted. There were no commercials constantly airing on TV and almost no adds at all). I'm sure she just wanted to tour Australia for her most loyal fans, not because there was a high demand in that country or that she could milk some cash out of them, but also because dropping Australia from her touring schedule would probably mean the end of her career over there. Even tough she performed for only a quarter of how many people she performed back in 2012 with the BTWBT, avoiding those 50,000 loyal fans that wanted to see her again only 2 years later would have had a pretty bad impact on her reputation over there.
Live Nation aren't stupid, Australia is one of the world's biggest touring markets and you cannot avoid it and expect people over there to care that much anymore for you (probably unless you're Madonna).
So, as I said, the lack of hits combined with the fact that most aussies didn't even know she released a new record, had a new tour and a album to promote affected the demand there once was. The point is that there is no need to be OVERREACTING because she can just as easily jump back on the train if she does the right things and the right promo. I'm sure of it. All these people that saw her back in 2012 already knew she was crazy, that her latest singles flopped in their country, that she isn't as popular anymore as she once was, yet they still paid for tickets to see her and that merely because she promoted her record and her concerts over there and people knew what to expect.
It's funny to see those overreactions tho, it's like people pretend her touring career is over now just because she couldn't sell as many tickets in Australia as she once did. Calm down guys, she's only 6 years into her career, if she plays her cards right, she can just as easily jump back.
But anyway, let's just leave it behind. The leg is over and we can now focus on the great part of the tour: the stadiums. We got nice shows coming up and we shouldn't dismiss the success of this tour just because she didn't do as good as other in some specific markets.
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No lies at least...
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Anyway idk why there's even a debate over this. It was clear that she had no interest in Australia besides the tour considering she paid them nothing but complete dust the entire era. Literally a single radio interview was the only promo I believe.
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The American numbers are disappointing considering she really didn't get to tour here last era
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Originally posted by aaronsmithjune1
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What's so about it?
Every artist does this if the date isn't selling as well, but most of you probably don't even know it because ATRL doesn't make such a massive fuss over it every time is happens...
And I'm sure Beyonce had done it too.
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I mean... I'm not saying she slayed Australia or anything, just that that particular photo doesn't represent what actually happened.
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Originally posted by aaronsmithjune1
The American number are disappointing considering she really didn't get to tour here last era
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You're still here after being severely clocked several times? Some of you haters don't seem to care about how silly you look.
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Originally posted by aaronsmithjune1
The American number are disappointing considering she really didn't get to tour here last era
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She played every big city in the country and visited almost every state.
What did you expect her to do? Perform on stadiums?
She had 35 sold out shows, sold about 440,000 tickets and 2 massive headlining festival shows where she performed for an additional 120,000 people.
And all these with a flop era.
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Originally posted by Dr.Cake
She played every big city in the country and visited almost every state.
What did you expect her to do? Perform on stadiums?
She had 35 sold out shows, sold about 440,000 tickets and 2 massive headlining festival shows where she performed for an additional 120,000 people.
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Shhhhh, no facts allowed. Numbers are banned from this thread unless they're "L4DY G4G4 FL0PP3D!"
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Originally posted by Bang Up
Shhhhh, no facts allowed. Numbers are banned from this thread unless they're "L4DY G4G4 FL0PP3D!"
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This is just getting boring, predictable and embarrassing.
I won't even try to demonstrate and back up with facts anything to those trolls anymore.
I will also request a thread ban for all the KP fans that keep on coming in this Gaga RELATED thread, always perched and doing nothing but posting pictures taken before the show, trolling around and then leaving. Take it to SIG.
It's just getting out of hand.
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You'd think she wasn't touring a flop album in a country she hadn't promoted in for years with some of the expectations around here.
The tour is allowed to struggle a bit. Cut her some slack. I know a few folk who are simply skipping this tour because they weren't big fans of ARTPOP, but they'll sure as hell be back next time if they love the material. No biggie.
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Originally posted by Bang Up
I mean... I'm not saying she slayed Australia or anything, just that that particular photo doesn't represent what actually happened.
You're still here after being severely clocked several times? Some of you haters don't seem to care about how silly you look.
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So making up excuses for the lack of interest is CLOCKING?
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Originally posted by aaronsmithjune1
So making up excuses for the lack of interest is CLOCKING?
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I literally just posted like, ten photos of packed venues from around the world. If that's "lack of interest" then I must've missed the memo that that phrase received a new definition.
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how much has she made so far total?
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OMG the obsession of the haters is so real :rip;
Go out and find something to do or maybe watch your fave's concert on DVD but do something else lol.
The monsters have already proved that most of the shows were sold out or sold decently, there's no point on coming over and over again to say OMG SHE FLOPPED.
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko
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What does this prove when there's a before show picture of one show that has a curtain?
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Originally posted by Blade
Someone who looked at a PollStar-reported PWT show. I clearly remember the Kats kept saying PollStar wasn't reliable and shouldn't be used for receipts.
My, how the tables have turned.... I guess it's suddenly usable for receipts?
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Yeah, you're right
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Originally posted by aaronsmithjune1
The American numbers are disappointing considering she really didn't get to tour here last era
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Same #s as Rih's last tour. They are perfectly fine. The Queen is nearing the 500 million cumulative career your gross mark way faster than anyone else in the game.
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