Tbh, the Katy Cats are only like this because they've had to defend their faves for 3 years now. As already pointed out, it's usually the Monsters that attack them and their fave, and I still don't know why since Adele or Beyoncé or Britney would be a better person to target in terms of who is more successful.

If they didn't have a certain stanbase always bullying them, they wouldn't be on the defensive

Looking tough for her to smash because she snubbed her singles of their fighting chances by releasing the music video in first week.

She used to let the airplay grow, used lyric video, music video,... as well timed boosters to keep the airplay growing and used performances, discounts and remixes at the airplay peak to ramp up the sales. big numbers + big numbers (in the same week) = really big numbers.

Nowadays it's like maximum promo/hype + minimum airplay (in first week) = small number. When the airplay grows, the effect of initial promo/hype is gone and there is no new promo planned => still small numbers during the entire single run.

She brought the TD era recipe, the single release schedule,... to the industry. Why wouldn't she keeps using it?

• It's pointless to try to tie or beat an once-in-20-years-occurence?
• Honesty? Not wanting to keep up the appearance by using maths to make any single look like a top 3. She wants to be venerable to make it visible which songs underperforms and which are true hits that can't be sabotaged.
• Testing waters? She tried a lot of un-TD things in her videos (what about no storyline, sophisticated instead campy,...), tried to sell a song with the words no one really wants to hear (Reminding people that at the end of the day we all want love, whether you try to deny it or not. And don't we all hate to admit that we struggle with it just like her? The GP was very clear with their choice for Dark Horse where Katy is warning her potential lovers that they better be good enough, worthy for her.),...
• Mental safety valves? Keep using the mathematically approach could deluded her into thinking that she can push anything to top 3. It can't keep working forever, because you would release worse/weaker songs with every single release without seeing it starting to underperform and one day the song would be so weak that no amount of maths/tactics/promo could help.
• Stopping us from becoming too cocky.
• Preparing for her second reinvention? Just like pop rock was a dead end in 2009?

Where are you getting those numbers are you adding streams?

Firework is 6x platinum, DH and Roar are 5x platinum

Regardless Bruno's current tour is not finished yet, and of all those awards Katy has won how many are grammys , you know the most PRESTIGOUS of all music awards, Bruno has 2 .

At the end of the day JTWYA and Grenade have sold more WW than any Katy single, including Firework and Roar. So...

Yes, I am including streams just as the RIAA does. Those are the official numbers. JTWYA is 6x Platinum including streams. And considering Bruno has 154 tour dates it would be a bit embarassing if it didn't gross at LEAST $100 million. Katy's North American average per tour date is so far about $500K more than Bruno's.

And forgive me but I would rather have my fave have 6+ enormous singles than one big monster single. I'm also not exactly sure what your source is for it selling more than Firework and Roar...

Anyway, this is getting off-topic

If streaming is included then bruno's singles would also gain in certifications JTWYA is 6x plat. Without streams

Regardless Bruno has sold more albums than Katy this decade, he's more acclaimed and already performed on the worlds biggest stage. Not to mention he was already Billboards artist of the year

And since when did Bruno have ONE big hit he has 5 #1 singles
and all his solo ones have sold 4M+ in just the US.

Edit: It is off topic

I think the reason everyone seems to hate Katy (or at least the Kats) on ATRL is because they over exaggerate Katy's success. She has never been able to sell many albums compared to other big artists, that's a fact. The only thing she had going for her is her #1s which she is now struggling more and more to get (her latest single hasn't even reached too 80 which is pretty bad for a singles artist...) whereas Kats like to make out she is having some huge success never seen by a pop girl before
When in reality most of our favs have outsold Katy in albums, had higher tour gross, have Grammys etc and Katy has a long way to go until she reaches the success of any of our favs

We've never claimed that Katy was a successful album artist.

TIHWD is #66 (+22)

The TD era was one of the biggest eras of the decade - fact. No need to exaggerate there.

Kii at her not selling albums and being a local singles artist but at the same time having the best-selling female album WW last year.

Weren't ALL the monsters saying TD > BTW after Roar/PRISM vs App/Artpop first weeks? I mean the excuse was "Katy is obviously coming off a more sucessful era, she has more hype!!111!" (Which obviously was a backtracking of the "Why doesn't Katy have hype while everyone is thirsty for Gaga" a few weeks earlier)

This is so misleading to put the win as all Katy in the singles dept.

Gaga's sold nearly just as many singles as Katy WW. Yet her tour grosses are nearly 5x what Katy's are and The Fame Monster alone is more than double Katy's entire discog.

So, yeah a lot of people don't like Katy or Kats because it would seem all their talk about her being the world's biggest pop star ever is just really annoying unsubstantiated bravado. I don't think most people dislike Katy; it's more about her fans imo.

Not TF(M) selling +26m now

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It's late. Meant to say: The Fame Monster alone is more than Katy's entire discog + Gaga overall is more than double Katy's album sales overall. Which is true.

But if TEAs are included maybe TF(M) really is 26M+ I'll get back to ya on that one.

Yes tbh.













Can you sleep now??

Nope rih has more successful era(s)

1. Most Kats DO claim she is now an album and singles artist since Prism dropped.
2. You're just further backing up my point, #66 is embarrassingly bad for a singles artist

An it's easy to say TD is one of the biggest eras of the decade when we are 4 years into the decade

I always jam to her songs from all eras (well, some of them anyway) and I dont see how anyone turned their back on her.

No. I'm happy for Katy!