Poll: Bigger in US: Taylor or Beyonce? - Page 8

Blue Momo!

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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds

The excuses from the Hive are just

"Taylor is white and blonde"

"Country fans are more likely to not pirate music"

"Taylor has a clean image"

Accept that Taylor wins with grace

Quietly Trek

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Originally posted by KangBey

Highest grossing female tours all time Taylor is dead last, like I said, she has jump over many artist to reach Bey.

1. Madonna - Sticky & Sweet: $ 407,713,266
Number of shows: 85
Average attendance: 41,716

2. Madonna - MDNA: $ 305,158,362
Number of shows: 88
Average attendance: 25,140

3. Celine Dion - Taking Chances: $ 279,212,643
Number of shows: 132
Average attendance: 19,696

4. Beyoncé - The Mrs. Carter Show: $ 229,727,960
Number of shows: 132
Average attendance: 15,779

5. Lady Gaga - The Monster Ball: $ 227,400,000
Number of shows: 201
Average attendance: 12,438

6. Cher - Living Proof: The Farewell: $ 220,623,920
Number of shows: 326
Average attendance: 10,800

7. Madonna - Confessions: $ 194,754,447
Number of shows: 60
Average attendance: 20,171

8. P!nk - The Truth About Love: $ 182,937,014
Number of shows: 142
Average attendance: 13,974

9. Lady Gaga - Born This Way Ball: $ 181,100,000
Number of shows: 98
Average attendance: 19,334

10. Taylor Swift - Red: $150,184,971
Number of shows: 86
Average attendance: 19,801

http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=484212

Top 10 solo female touring acts Taylor didn't crack the top 5.

1. Madonna
$907.6M total gross, 233 shows
Confessions Tour (2006) $194.7M (60 shows)
Sticky and Sweet Tour (2008-09) $407.7M (85 shows)
MDNA Tour (2012) $305.2M (88 shows)

2. Celine Dion
$721.8M total gross
A New Day… Residency (2005-07) $292M
Taking Chances Tour (2008-09) $280.2M (132 shows)
Celine… Residency (2011-2019) $132.6M
Sans Attendre Tour (2013) $17M (9 shows)

3. Beyoncé
$439M total gross, 336 shows
The Beyonce Experience (2007) $90M (96 shows)
I Am… World Tour (2009-10) $119.5M (108 shows)
Mrs. Carter Show World Tour (2013-14) $229.7M (132 shows)

4. Lady Gaga
$425M total gross, 320 shows
The Fame Monster Ball Tour (2009-11) $227.4M (201 shows)
The Born This Way Ball Tour (2012-13) $181.1M (98 shows)
Roseland Residency (2014) $1.52M (7 shows)
Artrave: The Artpop Ball Tour (2014) $14M (14/79 shows)

5. Pink
$380M total gross, 323 shows
Funhouse Tour (2009) $149.3M (151 shows)
Funhouse Summer Carnival (2010) $46.4M (30 shows)
The Truth About Love Tour (2013-14) $184M (142 shows)

6. Taylor Swift
$346M total gross, 302 shows
Fearless Tour (2009-10) $73M (106 shows)
Speak Now World Tour (2011-12) $123.1M (110 shows)
The Red Tour (2013-14) $150.2M (86 shows)

7. Rihanna
$272M total gross, 259 shows
Last Girl on Earth Tour (2010-11) $40M (65 shows)
Loud Tour (2011) $90M (98 shows)
Diamonds World Tour (2013) $141.9M (96 shows)

8. Britney Spears
$219M total gross, 203 shows
The Circus Tour (2009) $131.8M (97 shows)
Femme Fatale Tour (2011) $68.7M (79 shows)
Britney: Piece of Me (2013-2015) $18.3M (27/78 shows)

9. Barbra Streisand
$185.5M total gross (49 shows)
Streisand (2006-07) $119.5M (29 shows)
Barbra Live (2012-13) $66M (20 shows)

10. Cher
$152.5M total gross, 241 shows
Cher at the Coliseum (2008-2011) $97.4M (192 shows)
Dressed to Kill Tour (2014) $55.1M (49/74 shows)

http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=650329

Look at the number of shows, lol. The other women have put on more shows than her. It took P!nk 142 shows to take eighth place. Taylor's gross is far more impressive with the amount of shows she performed. Look at the average attendance. The total tickets sold are nearly identical for Taylor, P!nk, and Beyoncê even though Taylor had far less dates, lol. Gross means very little if you're going ignore attendance.

As I said before, these numbers aren't adjusted for inflation. Cher's Farewell Tour is third or fourth on the list after adjusting for inflation.

Disturbia

NOBODY is bigger than Beyoncé. Like ANYWHERE.

Dollas n Diamonds

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Originally posted by Disturbia

NOBODY is bigger than Beyoncé. Like ANYWHERE.

LOL

Quietly Trek

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Originally posted by simon

I have listened to "Red" and all of that sounds completely vague. Known for Loyal fanbase? Impact with Meaningful music with widespread appeal? Almost any artist can say that. As stated, her "musical" impact that you say she has Beyonce beat in - is almost non-existent. Taylor is lovely but she has done not done much to inspire or push the music industry. As stated she is just a sweet country teen girl that copied Shania's blueprint and became successful. In terms of music impact and respect, Beyonce has her beat in all forefronts, and Taylor has yet to do anything to surpass that and have yet to create distinctive music brand.

Beyoncé biggest moment musically is probably Single Ladies, which is really more like a cultural moment, and I agree that Beyoncé is the bigger celebrity. As you can see by Taylor Swift taking on acting roles, she's starting to branch out. How much an artist is able to sell does correlate to his/her impact musically. Taylor consistently sells the most in the US, because her music affects many people. Musically their respect is very similar considering the amount of awards they both have won and have been nominated for. Taylor's brand is distinctive, and it sets her apart from Gaga, Katy Perry, Rihanna, etc. Her brand is sturdy, consistent, and highly successful.

You'll be sure to hear her new song within the coming week or so, and I think she'll surprise you.

Legacy

They are equal imo.

Edit: just read the OP. If we include sales I'd say Taylor and since she debuted after Bey...

superben

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Originally posted by Lethal

Well, lets see

Beyonce has a career that spans almost 20 years. Taylor does not.
Beyonce has 5x more #1's than Taylor.
Beyonce has recieved more awards than Taylor in the US.
Beyonce has more Grammys than Taylor by a large margin.

My vote is for Beyonce although Taylor is also very successful

Taylor has surpassed Beyonce in less time. That's a plus point for her.

While Beyonce has more Grammies, Taylor has more of those in the more significant categories.

abrahamjmr

Beyoncé has more #1s singles in the US. All of her albums have debuted at #1. She's earned more Grammys, she impacts more radio formats in the US, she's been headlined for the Super Bowl, she's not just an artists whose fans are teenagers, she's the bigger celebrity, she's accomplished so much more.

Monkey_Juice

I don't even use Beyonce

But the fact some of you even THINK Taylor comes CLOSE To Beyonce is laughable.

BEYONCE is on another LEVEL! Taylor can sell 50million albums in AMERICA Beyonce will STILL remain bigger. Taylor has all these sales and playing stadium's but when it's said and done people are going to remember BEYONCE MORE.

Taylor has alway's JUST BEEN THERE, it's why she is not in the TOP TIER of pop girl's. Only on ATRL do I see people claim Taylor is Bigger then BEY.

Jet

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Originally posted by Monkey_Juice

I don't even use Beyonce

But the fact some of you even THINK Taylor comes CLOSE To Beyonce is laughable.

BEYONCE is on another LEVEL! Taylor can sell 50million albums in AMERICA Beyonce will STILL remain bigger. Taylor has all these sales and playing stadium's but when it's said and done people are going to remember BEYONCE MORE.

Taylor has alway's JUST BEEN THERE, it's why she is not in the TOP TIER of pop girl's. Only on ATRL do I see people claim Taylor is Bigger then BEY.

All of this

Superpower

Beyoncé is bigger than Taylor. Everybody knows who she is, Taylor is known by Country and Pop fans.
Then again, Bey has been around for much longer than Taylor so it only makes sense.

abrahamjmr

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Originally posted by Monkey_Juice

I don't even use Beyonce

But the fact some of you even THINK Taylor comes CLOSE To Beyonce is laughable.

BEYONCE is on another LEVEL! Taylor can sell 50million albums in AMERICA Beyonce will STILL remain bigger. Taylor has all these sales and playing stadium's but when it's said and done people are going to remember BEYONCE MORE.

Taylor has alway's JUST BEEN THERE, it's why she is not in the TOP TIER of pop girl's. Only on ATRL do I see people claim Taylor is Bigger then BEY.

She's not even known outside the States. Ask someone in another country if they know Beyoncé and some of them might not, but lots of people do. Taylor won't ever be as big as Beyoncé, you said it right.

PrettyHurts

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Originally posted by Monkey_Juice

I don't even use Beyonce

But the fact some of you even THINK Taylor comes CLOSE To Beyonce is laughable.

BEYONCE is on another LEVEL! Taylor can sell 50million albums in AMERICA Beyonce will STILL remain bigger. Taylor has all these sales and playing stadium's but when it's said and done people are going to remember BEYONCE MORE.

Taylor has alway's JUST BEEN THERE, it's why she is not in the TOP TIER of pop girl's. Only on ATRL do I see people claim Taylor is Bigger then BEY.

tea

i'm cackling at this thread....

Notorious K.E.N

Lol, y'all still talking about this?

Where's Kanye when we need him

Slayley

Musically, Taylor
As a celebrity, Beyoncé

Bolded = the question at hand and thus the answer

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Originally posted by Disturbia

NOBODY is bigger than Beyoncé. Like ANYWHERE.

lol try Rih in the UK & P!nk in Australia

simon

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Originally posted by Quietly Trek

Beyoncé biggest moment musically is probably Single Ladies, which is really more like a cultural moment, and I agree that Beyoncé is the bigger celebrity. As you can see by Taylor Swift taking on acting roles, she's starting to branch out. How much an artist is able to sell does correlate to his/her impact musically. Taylor consistently sells the most in the US, because her music affects many people. Musically their respect is very similar considering the amount of awards they both have won and have been nominated for. Taylor's brand is distinctive, and it sets her apart from Gaga, Katy Perry, Rihanna, etc. Her brand is sturdy, consistent, and highly successful.

You'll be sure to hear her new song within the coming week or so, and I think she'll surprise you.

Movies? I am talking about music.

Crazy In Love, Single Ladies, Irreplaceable & Halo are all more impactful than anything Taylor has done. Music Impact.

Beyonce is known as one of the greatest - if not the greatest - performer of our generation. Music Impact.

Beyonce's Singing Style so revered and distinctive that there has been articles describing her "rap-singing" that has inspired artists. Music Impact.

DC that she was the lead singer of. Music Impact.

Then there are her iconic moments in music - Which she has a great deal of. Music Impact.

Tell me what Taylor has done there that beats Beyonce.

UnusualBoy

Love both but let's not today, Taylor is bigger in single and album sales, the only thing that Bey has on her is the tour grossing.

Aleks

Taylor of course.

PrettyHurts

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Originally posted by Notorious K.E.N

Lol, y'all still talking about this?

Where's Kanye when we need him

#beyoncehadoneofthebestvideosofalltime

Superpower

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Originally posted by Monkey_Juice

I don't even use Beyonce

But the fact some of you even THINK Taylor comes CLOSE To Beyonce is laughable.

BEYONCE is on another LEVEL! Taylor can sell 50million albums in AMERICA Beyonce will STILL remain bigger. Taylor has all these sales and playing stadium's but when it's said and done people are going to remember BEYONCE MORE.

Taylor has alway's JUST BEEN THERE, it's why she is not in the TOP TIER of pop girl's. Only on ATRL do I see people claim Taylor is Bigger then BEY.

When I saw this thread yesterday, I thought it was a joke, like WTF. But it's still going on because all the wasps are here. Predictable but hilarious.
We should just ask Taylor and her boss and they'll say Beyoncé (the one who saved her at the VMAs)