Yes but no.

Yes because they're not thinking about anyone else. Most people who have survived a suicide attempt say that they're problem could have been easily fixed. So it's possible to get help and survive for those that love you.

But no because when you get that low, you don't think anyone loves you so you see it as only affecting yourself. I mean, I see it as overall a no, but thinking subjectively, there's a little bit of a yes in my answer.

Not really something you should ever joke about.

It depends I guess

Thank you!
No matter how hard, depressed and f*** up is your situation, suicide is the easy way of getting rid of the s*** that you are into. That's why I find it as a human weakness! I've been thru critical moments and I never ever thought of taking my own life away!

If you suffer from mental illness (not depression or having problems in your everyday life) it doesn't count as a suicide!

no

I see why some say it's selfish, though if someone doesn't want to live, asking them to is selfish too. A lot of people do go get help, but sometimes it just doesn't help, so what then?

not going to the shrink because you think it wont help just doesnt make sense to me, sorry. maybe i'm coming off as inconsiderate. i do think that there is still a stigma about going to a shrink but we have to work on erasing that. you dont see people with terminal diseases refusing to get help until they've tried everything they can. thats how it should always be. you fight till the end. its better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

If you go, but there is no change?

Well depends. Most people commit suicide for themselves and themselves only. Not out of generosity. So by definition it is selfish. Especially if you have people that love you.

It is the single most selfish thing one could possibly do in a lifetime.

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You cant just say that a person suffering from depression is selfish.

Depression is a disease just like cancer. Depression has different forms and is often caused by imbalance of certain brain chemicals which in many cases cant be successfully treated. No sane human being would call a person who loses his fight with cancer selfish. So why do you think that its all right to call a person who loses his fight with clinical depression (which is a mental disease) selfish?

No it's not. http://www.suicide.org/suicide-is-no...lfish-act.html

It's stupid to assume people who commit suicide only think about themselves. As someone who has suicidal thoughts I am full aware of the consequences but at the same time it gives me power because not only can I escape but I can also ruin someone's life tbh.

it's disgusting to call someone "selfish" for committing suicide.

they've probably thought about what it would do to their loved ones but could see no way out that wouldn't hurt them.

Did someone's fave commit suicide why is this in the base section

I'm not saying that people who suffer from depression are selfish.
Selfish are those who thinks it's the easiest way to get out the situation.
Clinical depression can be prevented in the stages of its appearance, before it gets critical.
Also comparing depression with cancer is unexceptable.

No, it's just really sad. It's not like the usual intention is concerning anyone else so much as an individual's concerns.

How can be clinical depression prevented, please, when doctors dont know what causes it or even how the brain functions? And almost all antidepressants such as prozac have adverse effects - they can worsen the chemical imbalance and even cause suicidal tendencies.

Therapy is complicated. Every patient needs individual approach and every psychologist and psychiatrist has different methods. The success depends on the fact if a therapist and patient can create a good relationship between each other. To find a psychologist or psychiatrist/therapy that suits you can be hard and often takes time, even years, while depression can progress at different speed. Also going through many unsuitable therapies can worsen the depression and many people refuse to undergo it again if they werent treated properly several times before.

And why do you think that to compare cancer and depression is unacceptable? Both can kill you.

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No. It's incredibly selfish, dangerous and arrogant of you (or anyone) to be placing blame on people who are so severely depressed that they're contemplating suicide. To be calling them selfish is like walking up to a dying child with ebola and saying "wow, that's really ugly!"

Suicide and suicidal thoughts aren't had by people with normally functioning brains. Suicidal ideation is considering psychotic and instead of blaming them or guilting them for their condition maybe you could do something useful and, I don't know - help.

Or if you can't do that just stay away from them with your guilt trip. It's not going to do anything except upset the person further or confuse them.