News: Outrage in Saudi Arabia-1st woman to read news without veil - Page 5

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QUEEN.

Kali.

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Originally posted by PromKing

I don't have sex in public so I don't really have that fear

and it's jail not death.

Oh so they don't care what you in privacy of your own home? That's good.

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Homosexual activity is illegal and penalties include the death penalty.

https://smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/...e/Saudi_Arabia

Maybe it's outdated though. Oh wait, you are also from Dubai so it might be different for you.

heckinglovato

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Originally posted by Starstruck.

I've lived in Saudi Arabia for 18 years and I've never seen women complaining about wearing abaya or hijab/niqab? stop making up ****

they feel comfortable in it.

You guys are going around saying they shouldn't be wearing it and they shouldn't be forced when its their choice like how many times do we have to repeat this? YOU are Arab, you should be aware of this like.....

I never said the laws against gays are right but you made it seem like Saudi is the only country who has these laws/thoughts or w/e when it's the entire Middle East...

Wait omg which one?

It's not the women's choice that we're criticizing, it's the governmental law that is completely gender-discriminating and violates utter equalism between both sexes, on the other hand, women must have the right to choose on wearing the Abaya or not and it doesn't matter if it's a little minority that stands against this ignorant law.
Plus, Jordan isn't against homosexuality and doesn't mind sexual relationships (especially when they aren't public) - those rare arrests occur when homosexuality is being publicly proposed and I'm not defending these arrests whatsoever, but there's only little justice you can serve when going head-to-head against religion rules.
From my own perspective, it sickens me how you're standing against your country's laws against homosexuals (you're homo/bi) and then you're defending the obligatory Abaya upon women (you're a male so it wouldn't bother you)

Medo

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Originally posted by Kali.

Out of curiosity, how do you guys deal with their homosexuality laws (which I read include death penalty)? Aren't you afraid of being tracked down or is it only illegal in public?

I read and article that said it's a couple of years
in jail and not death unless there were witnesses to the intercourse (which is basically never)
but I'm not sure how valid that is..

and well, it is definitely scary which is why you have to be extremely careful.
Especially when I read about the undercover cops on Grindr and etc..

PromKing

I'm just going to put this here that my sisters all grew up in the states and then graduated in an international school over here and all LOVE to wear abayas and they espicially enjoy buying them in Saudi Arabia cause they have the best selections there.

Abayas are fashion

Abayas are glam

Medo

Men have to kinda cover up too though, it's not really as imposed as Women but still..

I've been stopped from entering Malls a couple of times and a government building for wearing shorts.

Kali.

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Originally posted by medosuxx

I read and article that said it's a couple of years
in jail and not death unless there were witnesses to the intercourse (which is basically never)
but I'm not sure how valid that is..

and well, it is definitely scary which is why you have to be extremely careful.
Especially when I read about the undercover cops on Grindr and etc..

Lord

Be careful.

PromKing

The did that to me at 'The Farm'

@medo obv

slimsexy

I don't know why Muslims on atrl get defensive anytime issues like this are brought up,just accept that there are a good number of radical Muslims and claiming that they do not represent Islam would not make them go away.
It's a known fact that some women are forced by their families to wear veil,no need to deny it.

Starstruck.

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Originally posted by heckinglovato

From my own perspective, it sickens me how you're standing against your country's laws against homosexuals (you're homo/bi) and then you're defending the obligatory Abaya upon women (you're a male so it wouldn't bother you)

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two completely topics and its offensive how you are comparing them

i'd literally drag you to the pits right now but im gonna stay ON topic.

BlazingLovatic

I just read through this entire thread and I see people saying that women love to wear abayas, but if that were the case, there'd be no law/policy enforcing them to wear it, as they'd do it of their own free will.

Medo

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Originally posted by slimsexy

I don't know why Muslims on atrl get defensive anytime issues like this are brought up,just accept that there are a good number of radical Muslims claiming that they do not represent Islam would not make them go away.
It's a known fact that some women are forced by their families to wear veil,no need to deny it.

Who denied it?

We're talking about the 'most' and not the 'some' ..

Plus there's a difference between a scarf, a veil and a abaya..

Mezter

These poor people

Medo

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Originally posted by BlazingLovatic

I just read through this entire thread and I see people saying that women love to wear abayas, but if that were the case, there'd be no law/policy enforcing them to wear it, as they'd do it of their own free will.

Women aren't forced to wear Abayas in other Gulf Countries like the UAE, Kuwait and etc, but a lot still wear them..

Starstruck.

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Originally posted by medosuxx

Women aren't forced to wear Abayas in other Gulf Countries like the UAE, Kuwait and etc, but a lot still wear them..

and if they arent wearing abayas, they are wearing a scart or a hijab...its like this in almost all arab countries

Sombra

Did you guys read the OP?

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Women often appear on Saudi TV without wearing headscarves or veils, but the appearance was thought by many to be the first by a newsreader on a government-owned station.

heckinglovato

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Originally posted by Starstruck.

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two completely topics and its offensive how you are comparing them

i'd literally drag you to the pits right now but im gonna stay ON topic.

It's funny how you ignored two thirds of what I said and clinged the paragraph where I stated my opinion about you fightng for your own rights and violating other people's rights.
But congrats at your "dragging to the pits" skills I guess?

BlazingLovatic

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Originally posted by medosuxx

Women aren't forced to wear Abayas in other Gulf Countries like the UAE, Kuwait and etc, but a lot still wear them..

That doesn't address my point though.

If people in Saudi Arabia were legally obliged to purchase a Rihanna album every year or face a fine, you wouldn't justify that policy by saying "So what, many people in the US buy her music out of their own free will

", would you?
It's a pretty ridiculous example, but it gets the point across.

RihannasVeryOwn

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Originally posted by Luke.

Did you guys read the OP?

Reading proficiency isn't a skill many ATRL users share, sadly.

Medo

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Originally posted by BlazingLovatic

That doesn't address my point though.

If people in Saudi Arabia were obliged to purchase a Rihanna album every year or face a fine, you wouldn't justify that policy by saying "So what, people in the US buy her music out of their own free will

", would you?
It's a pretty ridiculous example, but it gets the point across.

I've never said I was pro-mandatory dress codes, I'm not even Saudi.

I was replying to those in here making it out to be more religious than cultural.

Also was stating that from living here, I've concluded that it isn't as bad as it's being made out to be.