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Originally posted by AnotherGagaFan
I'm not trying to minimize anything. I love tonality. I'm just pointing out that there is a structure. Btw, it only sounds pleasing to the ear cause you're so used to it ��
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Yes ofc there is structure, the point is that the aesthetic/visceral value of a certain structure in art will be in large part the result of what the people at large (or those in charge) want because it appeals to them for whatever reason. Familiarity with the technical aspects of a structure is not a necessary condition for the end result to be appreciated (or not).
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Originally posted by AnotherGagaFan
Oh and musical structure did not develop on what people found appealing. Equal temperament (the western tuning system since the late 1600s till today) was pretty disliked by people but composers wanted to make it happen and did. If we listened to something in mean tone temperament, the tuning system directly before it, we would call it hideous. And it's funny because that's what people thought was "pleasurable" for a really long time. So yea it's language and familiarity. Comes from a system that your ears know well, whether you like it or not.
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
That structure is based on what sounds PLEASING to the ear? Like are you really trying to minimize the degree to which culture has developed largely as a function of what people (or the powers that were at any given time) found appealing on a sheer sensual level...?
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You mean it appealed to them so they wanted to make it happen? Hmm... and you are basically saying culture is fluid, which goes with out saying. What appealed to people of a certain time may not appeal to those of another just the same as it is across various cultures today (which have historically employed different musical scale systems obv). Lol and yes we are drawn to what *feels* comfortable and that with which we're familiar? Yes, I agree.