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News: ISIS militants destroy historical biblical site in Iraq
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Originally posted by Beatz
Yeah, I'd like high representatives of "moderate" (if they even exist) Islam to condemn these actions but they're oddly silent... (and NO, random ATRLers are not high representatives of Islam  )
In the UK, people had to pressure them to even declare about the butcher of a soldier in broad light of the day. 
I pray for Christians and Shia muslims of Iraq can return to their homes someday and live in peace along with Sunni muslims that are not extremists.  |
I don't believe that islam is a violent religion,my only complaint is that the so called moderates have not done enough to ensure that this extremist are brought to book,everytime there is an attack all they do is condemn the actions of these people and go to bed,but the moment a government decides to tackle these miscreants then they start sympathising with them and finding faults in the actions of the authorities.Bottomline is that it's time for the moderates to take or support actions meant to bring such people to justice,enough of the lip service.
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Originally posted by Miss Frizzle
As usual, the Muslims make their claims that ISIS & other terrorist groups do not represents Islam
Yes, they do
Islam is a violent, intolerant & satanic religion. I'm sick of these Muslims destroying everything. They just don't know how to behave.
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Let's says they do represent Islam, what are the numbers?
For example; ISIS consists of around 4,000 militants.
That's less than 0.00025% of the Muslim population.
What you're seeing is an extreme creation of the Wahhabi movement.
Most of the 'Terrorists' you can can probably name are filed under that movement.. (Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, ISIS...)
Calling Islam violent, intolerant & satanic is disgusting and very easily refutable ..
I'm not sure you're good with numbers but do you realize the quantity and capacity that is 1.6 Billion Muslims?
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They WERE funded by them. They hoped it will stop Iran and the Shiaas but when they saw how it got out of control the countries that funded them stopped funding them and the money today that they have are stolen from the cities and banks in the areas they took, they stole a bank full of gold and money and thats how they became the richest terrorist groups in the world. Read first before you comment. And for all of you saying that they represent Islam, can you tell me how can they represent a religion they are destroying its holy places and started killing muslims themselves? And cut the ********, the Quraan said that a jihadist is someone who fights for the muslims and defends his Islamic country from any outsider danger and fights for the religion of Allah,can you tell me how are they jihadists if they kill innocents and the majority of the ones who got killed by them are muslims which are the people they mustnt kill because that means they are no longer muslims? They do every single thing a muslim musnt do which makes them non muslims but here you are here insisting that they represent Islam, you try your hardest to picture Islam as a religion of terror no matter what, which why no one is ever gonna take your ******** and bother to argue it with you.
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They stole from banks? Lol, that is prohibited in Islam big time.
These clowns destroy historical sites, kill innocent people, raid cities, and steal money? They are no Muslims.
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Originally posted by Beatz
What do you mean? Did christians destroyed ancient muslim sites whenever they conquered/occupied a land? did Israel destroy the dome of the rock in Jerusalem or any mosque? did buddhist burned down mosques in south asian countries?
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lol biggest fail of all time.
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Originally posted by slimsexy
I don't believe that islam is a violent religion,my only complaint is that the so called moderates have not done enough to ensure that this extremist are brought to book,everytime there is an attack all they do is condemn the actions of these people and go to bed,but the moment a government decides to tackle these miscreants then they start sympathising with them and finding faults in the actions of the authorities.Bottomline is that it's time for the moderates to take or support actions meant to bring such people to justice,enough of the lip service.
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Originally posted by slimsexy
I don't believe that islam is a violent religion,my only complaint is that the so called moderates have not done enough to ensure that this extremist are brought to book,everytime there is an attack all they do is condemn the actions of these people and go to bed,but the moment a government decides to tackle these miscreants then they start sympathising with them and finding faults in the actions of the authorities.Bottomline is that it's time for the moderates to take or support actions meant to bring such people to justice,enough of the lip service.
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You're right.
But it's complicated.
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Originally posted by fabbriche
^ Judaism has nothing to do at all with the destruction of those mosques. Those are inevitable casualties in a war. Israel is a secular country. They are not driven by a holy book to launch a jihad on unbelievers. Like Catholics, there are no Jewish terrorist organizations. Can't say the same about Islam.
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Wrong.
For your info, here are some info about Christian and Jewish terrorist groups and organizations:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewis...ious_terrorism
And whatever excuses or reasons you think there are, the result is the same - targeting and destroying historical sites = unjustifiable damage to cultural heritage of the country and the whole world.
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Originally posted by Bríseis
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Those links you posted only mention 2 instances of Roman Catholic terrorism in Northeast India and Northern Ireland. Majority of so-called "Christian terrorists" are not Catholics. Catholics comprise the greatest majority of Christians yet contribute so little to Christian terrorism. And Jewish terrorism only lasted a decade since the creation of Israel. Succeeding violent acts with religious motivations were committed by only 4 individual Jews. So trivial are their impact that they can be dismissed as virtually non-existent. All of them combined don't compare to the wide scope and magnitude of destruction caused by Islamic terrorism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism
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Despicable. They really need to be eliminated. Enough of their disregard for other humans, life, and civilization.
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Originally posted by fabbriche
Those links you posted only mention 2 instances of Roman Catholic terrorism in Northeast India and Northern Ireland. Majority of so-called "Christian terrorists" are not Catholics. Catholics comprise the greatest majority of Christians yet contribute so little to Christian terrorism. And Jewish terrorism only lasted a decade since the creation of Israel. Succeeding violent acts with religious motivations were committed by only 4 individual Jews. So trivial are their impact that they can be dismissed as virtually non-existent. All of them combined don't compare to the wide scope and magnitude of destruction caused by Islamic terrorism.
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Oh, another post of yours showing your ignorance, prejudice and the lack of knowledge, how surprising.
First, you were claiming that there are no Catholic or Jewish terrorist organisation, and when proved wrong, you try to make excuses. Whatever.
Second, if you want to compare, then be fair and compare the whole religions.
Christianity, just like Islam, is divided into many branches, and we Roman Catholics are one of them. And just like in Islam, largest groups of Christians are peaceful, but there always were extremist and fanatic groups and sects responsible for many atrocities in the name of every religion.
Third, you are trying to paint a picture that Islam is some evil religion, what is not true. The truth is that Islam is right now facing a crisis, which probably every religion has faced in the past. Christianity and Catholics faced several of them during our history when the largest churches were fighting each other, and when small branches of various Christian groups were persecuted by larger ones. There were many battles between Catholics and other Christian churches, like for example between Catholics and Protestants, and during these wars, many atrocities were done, like for example the St. Bartholomew's Day massacre when Catholics mass murdered up to 30 000 Protestants in Paris in only few hours. We Catholics are sadly responsible for many crimes in the name of our religion, aimed against other religions (take for example many massacres of muslims and also jews during Crusades) and own people (Inquisition, anyone?). The only difference is that Islam is going through its darkest capitol right now and you are witnessing it, thats all. Terrorism is a relatively modern term, but many actions and crimes commited by other religions in the past could be easily classified as terrorist acts if they happened now.
If you look at the whole picture, no religion is better or worse and every religion has its bloody history, including judaism (persecution of early Christians for example) or buddhism (buddhism is idealized in the west and most of people only dont know about it). You seriously have a damn lot of learning to do hun.
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For the record, the moderates DO speak out - they just don't get covered by the media.
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Originally posted by Beatz
Yeah, I'd like high representatives of "moderate" (if they even exist) Islam to condemn these actions but they're oddly silent... (and NO, random ATRLers are not high representatives of Islam )
In the UK, people had to pressure them to even declare about the butcher of a soldier in broad light of the day.
I pray for Christians and Shia muslims of Iraq can return to their homes someday and live in peace along with Sunni muslims that are not extremists. |
This is correct , Im a muslim and no Arab nation bar Syria has done anything to stop these savages. Syrians suffer from a civil war and Obama the war criminal supported the FSA which turned into ISIS. The christains loved life under ASSAD his wife was a christian
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Originally posted by Bríseis
Oh, another post of yours showing your ignorance, prejudice and the lack of knowledge, how surprising.
First, you were claiming that there are no Catholic or Jewish terrorist organisation, and when proved wrong, you try to make excuses. Whatever.
Second, if you want to compare, then be fair and compare the whole religions.
Christianity, just like Islam, is divided into many branches, and we Roman Catholics are one of them. And just like in Islam, largest groups of Christians are peaceful, but there always were extremist and fanatic groups and sects responsible for many atrocities in the name of every religion.
Third, you are trying to paint a picture that Islam is some evil religion, what is not true. The truth is that Islam is right now facing a crisis, which probably every religion has faced in the past. Christianity and Catholics faced several of them during our history when the largest churches were fighting each other, and when small branches of various Christian groups were persecuted by larger ones. There were many battles between Catholics and other Christian churches, like for example between Catholics and Protestants, and during these wars, many atrocities were done, like for example the St. Bartholomew's Day massacre when Catholics mass murdered up to 30 000 Protestants in Paris in only few hours. We Catholics are sadly responsible for many crimes in the name of our religion, aimed against other religions (take for example many massacres of muslims and also jews during Crusades) and own people (Inquisition, anyone?). The only difference is that Islam is going through its darkest capitol right now and you are witnessing it, thats all. Terrorism is a relatively modern term, but many actions and crimes commited by other religions in the past could be easily classified as terrorist acts if they happened now.
If you look at the whole picture, no religion is better or worse and every religion has its bloody history, including judaism (persecution of early Christians for example) or buddhism (buddhism is idealized in the west and most of people only dont know about it). You seriously have a damn lot of learning to do hun.
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I'm aware of the violent history of religions but I was particularly talking about modern day religious terrorism. The Catholic Church have acknowledged the atrocities it committed in the past for which it already expressed regret and issued apology about them. And Jews are probably the least fanatical of all religious groups. All these reasons explain the low contribution of both to modern religious terrorism. And I stand by what I previously said. There are currently no Catholic and Jewish terrorist organizations.
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