Gallup recently did a poll in the US on how they felt about the possibility of another Cold War.

50% Yes vs. 43% No, way higher than when another poll was conducted in 1991.

In those 65 and older, 64% said Yes...
In those 18-29, 58% said No...
http://www.gallup.com/poll/168116/ha...-cold-war.aspx

Does ATRL think we're headed to Cold War II?
If so, who would win?

If it ever really came to a Cold War it would be kind of a joke. Russia is a minor shadow of the USSR.

Its starting all over again tbh

So what happens during a cold war? Would we live normally still?

"Cold War" is pretty much a war without actually fighting. Both sides build up massive weapons supplies and threaten one another.

That is about it.

I think you're underestimating Russia/Putin's power.

Putin is making messes that only he himself can solve, therefore he has all the power. In Syria, Russia supplied weapons to the government. The US was obviously against it, but they weren't willing to put strong sanctions against Russia. Only when Syria used chemical weapons to Russia stop, but that meant Assad was still in power. Power to Putin. In Crimea, no sanctions, and Russia gets a crown-jewel. MH17, nothing has been don so far.

Angela Merkel will not impose sanctions on Russia or else oil prices will sky-rocket. Obama is too weak of a leader to do anything. Europe is fighting amongst itself on what to do with Russia.

Putin is enjoying watching this mess.

Seeing how our grandparents lived and through what they went during that period, no. IF it would happen tho, I would support the US. But yeah, let's just hope that this never happens again.

Edit: I didn't saw the Cold in the title

Another Cold War would be pointless. Neither the US nor especially Russia have the amount of money they had during the first one. I just hope this will all blow over but maybe I'm being to optimistic.

People said yes This is so annoying. Just mind you damn business and stop always trying to fight

Russia only has power as long as he doesn't do anything bad enough to get NATO to step in.

NATO would trash Russia into oblivion within 72 hours if it ever came to that.

If it came to war, the US would be more than a match to Russia, but with NATO behind them Russia would literally cease to exist as a sovereign state in a matter of weeks.

But NATO would never want to start a war.

They don't want to.

However, NATO is expanding, and several of Russia's neighbors are members.

If Russia were ever to attack one of them there would be war.

but you forgot to mention other countries like China - good Russian friend and pro Russian countries in Europe like Serbia , Belarus and Hungary and huge Russian population in Baltic states , Ukraine , Moldova ....

Than , Russia just needs to close the gas and oil pipe to EU and 50% of EU economy will crash . And you can't forget that Russia is rich country despite we all think that they are poor. They decreased their dept while the USA is constantly raising it's borrowing limit facing fiscal cliff , than Russia has good gold reserves , big army industry and oil and gas .

USA is not that strong as it used to be . If China would just withdraw their money from the US bonds and stop to finance US lifestyle ( because China is the biggest creditor ) the USA will be on their knees because today you don't need war to " conquer " country and money has significant role in today's world ( you can see that in sanctions by Eu and the USA on Russia because of Ukraine crisis ) .

Russia is doing what the USA was doing 10 years ago. Their are messing with world because they can
Iraq >> Syria ( Russia didn't agree with UN plan for Syria so they are still selling their stuff to Syria and no one can stop that )

Afghanistan >> Ukraine

China has too much to gain from trading and being involved with the global economy to risk it just to side with an ally. Russia and China can't just trade with themselves, and the BRICS countries won't be enough. Pulling the oil supplies from Europe would mean loss of revenue for Russia. Although the impact on them would be less in the short term, remember that part of the reason that this all started was for them to gain control of more oil for profit. Even with Russia trying to increase its worldwide presence areas such as Latin America, the western powers still have the most influence and reach. Having rebels on the ground is useful for holding and taking territories, but it won't help them much more if it escalates beyond this. But I do agree with you that modern warfare is less about bullets and more about wallets.

Not really.

If China does that the Chinese economy would literally collapse.

Because most of the worlds money goes through the US. Any American collapse will have massive ripple effects worldwide. Meaning everyone will be ****ed. It doesn't work like that. China can't even take out their money since that will take lots if time.

Also the US had built a system where they can survive on their own. The US has a century worth of energy supplies, it's own agriculture system, and so much more. The US has planned for a moment like this for years.

Russia is literally no match for the US. The US alone has more than double the amount of navel ships, airplanes an other military needs then the next biggest guy China.

There's a reason why the US won the Cold War and why it's the only superpower on earth left. And oil is being replaced by natural gas. The US is full it it.

The question that the poll asked was whether people thought the US was heading towards another Cold War, not whether they wanted it. Nobody wants another Cold War. Anyone who was alive in the 1960s at the height of it all will remember the all-encompassing fear of nuclear war that would destroy the world. Why would someone want that back?

agree , but Russia and China signed an oil/gas deal so China will be against sanctions or choosing sides because now their industry will rely on russian sources . Then you have Turkey and Russia has an eye on Turkey since Ottoman empire so they have some trade and economic deal with them also. Than all arabic world is more pro Russian than pro American ( and we all know why ) , some latin countries also have " americanophobia " . It's not that simple and we can not for sure say that the USA is in a better position

1) yes the USA can survive on their own but american hyper production can't be absorbed just by the US market . One of the reasons why the USA decided to join Russa/UK against Germany in WW I is because american economy was effected by it cause they couldn't sell their goods so their economy suffered . And less trade means less money . Sure, if cold war II happens they can trade with others but not as much as they would if the world stays the same. Also Russia has allies too . So it would not be just a clear win for the USA

2) US didn't won the Cold war . Socialism collapsed and it wasn't because of the USA . Maybe you guys in the USA are learning that stuff like it was just about "america " but it really wasn't. Socialism is unperfect just like capitalism . Also the US is "official " superpower but China controls it all . You don't need big army , ships ect , you just need to make the world become addicted to you .

And yes Russia also has massive gas supply.

I'm not some pro Russian but when i read some comments , it's like quite a number of people thinks that the USA can easily defeat any country and that is immune on everything like some mythological creature but at the same time it's struggling with high dept , fiscal crises , health care ect . Hobbes said that the state can't be perfect because it is made by humans

It's not just about winner or a loser cause you don't have a winner if this happens just the world full of angry , desperation, hate , ignorance , fear

The Delusion that China controls the USA.

#1 China is our top creditor yes, but it still only makes up less than 1/4th of US debt, and if push came to shove and China was being a bitch the USA could just refuse to pay its debt to China.... which would collapse its economy instantly between the loss of a couple trillion dollars are not being able to trade with the USA or its allies.

#2 China's military is a joke compared to the USA. Same with Russia. Neither one would last a week.... which is why neither would threaten us.



Sure the USA and China need each other, but anyone with even a slight knowledge of economics would realize that China needs us wayyyyy more than we need them. Sure if they cut us off we would go through a very bad recession or a depression, but the US fought and won WWII coming out of a depression, and China would cease to exist as a superpower if it lost the US as a trading partner and we chose to negate our debt to them.