News: Islamic State: Christians in Mosul to switch to Islam or die - Page 2

Iris

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Originally posted by IcarusIsFlying

Isn't the penalty for leaving Islam death?

I think so . So if they try to de-convert they are killed

I don't know if that is what Islam orders to but that's what is being practiced in Islamic states.

Beatz

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Originally posted by IcarusIsFlying

It's just facts, why shouldn't they post it

I hope this thread is not closed, this is the reality of what these savages are doing to both christians and muslims in Iraq, the true face of radical islam.

Beatz

This is heartbreaking

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...or-be-executed

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/0...ns-flee-mosul/

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middle...235739663.html

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/07/21...t-islam-or-die

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/19/wo...osul.html?_r=0

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ace-death.html

http://www.rferl.org/content/iraq-ch.../25467870.html

I guess these headlines aren't enough for the one that reported the thread, right?

G.U.Y

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Originally posted by Beatz

What?

So nobody should post about the horrors and crimes ISIS are inflicting over the people of Iraq and Syria, why do you want to censor this info? this is HAPPENING right now and it's very sad.

...and this is not anti-islam or do ISIS represents Islam?

I think NOT.

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Originally posted by Gedamara

So if he posted the reciepts of Palestinian victims in Gaza that would make him automatically anti-semitic?

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Originally posted by IcarusIsFlying

It's just facts, why shouldn't they post it

The title says Islamic State:

+ Just visit the "Threads Started By: heckinglovato" and you will get what I meant

+ I don't care , So.... yeah

cuneytb

excuse me, I'm a muslim and i never saw **** like that in real

and even if that is true, the problem is with the muslims, not Islam!
and by the way, that ISIS mess is also in hate with other muslims

they want to kill everyone that does believe to more than Allah. Like i believe in my profit, so they wanna kill me too

this is not what Islam is telling. They are not even muslims!!!

fabbriche

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Originally posted by Gedamara

I think so . So if they try to de-convert they are killed

I don't know if that is what Islam orders to but that's what is being practiced in Islamic states.

Death is the penalty for apostasy in Islam.

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The Islamic law on apostasy and the punishment is considered by many Muslims to be one of the immutable laws under Islam.[67] It is a hudud crime,[68][69] which means it is a crime against God,[70] and the punishment has been fixed by God. The punishment for apostasy includes[71] state enforced annulment of his or her marriage, seizure of the person's children and property with automatic assignment to guardians and heirs, and death for the apostate.[

heckinglovato

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Originally posted by fabbriche

Death is the penalty for apostasy in Islam.

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The Islamic law on apostasy and the punishment is considered by many Muslims to be one of the immutable laws under Islam.[67] It is a hudud crime,[68][69] which means it is a crime against God,[70] and the punishment has been fixed by God. The punishment for apostasy includes[71] state enforced annulment of his or her marriage, seizure of the person's children and property with automatic assignment to guardians and heirs, and death for the apostate.[

Afferty

Islam doesn't say kill everyone but Muslims

I'm really sad for what's happening at there, but not only Christians, everyone against ISIS is in danger. This is what happens when you destroy a country and leave it to a group of vagrant. You believe Arab Spring will bring there something good but every Arabian country is struggling right now and there will be more & more awful things.

RainDreamer

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Originally posted by fabbriche

This is what the cult of islam orders all muslims to do regarding everyone who isn't a muslim:

"Kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (9:123), slay them (9:5), fight with them (8:65 ), strive against them with great endeavor (25:52), be stern with them because they belong to hell (66:9) and strike off their heads; then after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives” for ransom (47:4), ...And fight them until there is no more (worshiping others besides Allah), and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world] 8:39"

Apologists for islam will say "Oh, but that is only in time of war", but any imam can declare war - and many already have done so multiple times.

Finally, because it's a command in the koran any muslim who doesn't believe all unbelievers should be killed or enslaved is actually committing heresy. The islamic penalty for heresy is death (4:89), which is why so many otherwise-mainstream muslims simply stay silent when extremists do extreme things.

someome tell that is not coming from a holy book? it cant be .......

Iris

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Originally posted by RainDreamer

someome tell that is not coming from a holy book? it cant be .......

Neither the Old Testament nor the Talmud are any less violent though. Don't hold it against muslims since other Holy Books have some not so nice parts too.

Afferty

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Originally posted by RainDreamer

someome tell that is not coming from a holy book? it cant be .......

these are only some parts from the sentences, they choose them and use them to fight Islam.

for example 2:191 is

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And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

Killing disbelievers is only allowed at war times. And war is only allowed if they declared war to you. It's the fact.

And every other source says different things about apostasy, i don't know what to say about it. - i hope death is not the penalty but i don't really know what's true - But Christians in Mosul born Christian, they weren't Muslim before, so ISIS have no right to kill them anyway.

cuneytb

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Originally posted by RainDreamer

someome tell that is not coming from a holy book? it cant be .......

Of course not

I never saw a holy book saying things like this

Iris

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Originally posted by Afferty

these are only some parts from the sentences, take choose them and use them to fight Islam.

for example 2:191 is

Killing disbelievers is only allowed at war times. And war is only allowed if they declared war to you. It's the fact.

And every other source says different things about apostasy, i don't know what to say about it. - i hope death is not the penalty but i don't really know what's true - But Christians in Mosul born Christian, they weren't Muslim before, so ISIS have no right to kill them anyway.

If they pay the Jizzya then ISIS won't harm them and they can keep their religion, but if they don't pay the Jizzya and after that refuse to convert to Islam then they'll get massacred. That's what I've heard.

Harrier

Religion is such a wonderful force isn't it? Thing is, they're not straying very far front what their book tells them.

Afferty

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Originally posted by Gedamara

If they pay the Jizzya then ISIS won't harm them and they can keep their religion, but if they don't pay the Jizzya and after that refuse to convert to Islam then they'll get massacred. That's what I've heard.

So this is about money, they use their religion to scare them.

Quiqui4eva

Infinite

islam is bad

Kworb

AP a few days ago