Poll: Bigger GLOBAL peak? Rihanna vs Xtina - Page 4

KillingYourCareer

Legend X was huger in the early 2000s than anyone else in the recent years.

mandym

Christina, I'd say.

Lucyyyyyyyyy

Xtina

T.C

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Originally posted by Eternium

If we account for TEAs to make up for the decline in album sales, Christina still easily outpaces Rihanna. Rihanna's strength comes from consistency and radio play, not sales from a single album.

Also, for those who STILL don't understand what a peak is, it is the era of your highest commercial success. You don't peak for six years; your biggest era is considered your peak. Rih's peak was GGGB and Christina's was CA. CA outsold GGGB's WW sales just in the U.S. and sold enough outside the U.S. to make up the difference in TEAs.

I think globally Stripped was Xtina's peak. Her debut had a bit of a local ratio.

NX127

Rihanna obv

Lein

Xtina had bigger peak, she declined a lot since then

Mariano

Xtina in the USA, Rihanna WW. Umbrella >>>

Ben Ili

I don't know a lot about Xtina's numbers, but from what I read on this thread so far, I'll go with Rihanna.
We can't compare album sales from around 2000 to sales around 2010 since of the huge decline. The only way to judge is based on their chart position (year end charts) and Rihanna's albums were higher compared to other albums in the same years than Xtina's albums compared to her rivals in her years.

Walk_Away21

Both are huge but Xtina had her debut -> Mi Reflejo -> Stripped -> B2B which was constant and consistent slayage from 1999-2008. Even her cover of Car Wash went top 10 in a bunch of countries like the UK when it was released.

SeanET

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Originally posted by Ben Ili

I don't know a lot about Xtina's numbers, but from what I read on this thread so far, I'll go with Rihanna.
We can't compare album sales from around 2000 to sales around 2010 since of the huge decline. The only way to judge is based on their chart position (year end charts) and Rihanna's albums were higher compared to other albums in the same years than Xtina's albums compared to her rivals in her years.

Aguilera's last huge record was released late 2002

Rihanna's first record was released mid 2005 (just 2 and a half years later)

The emancipation of Mimi, The massacre, American idiot, Monkey business were albums that sold more than 6-7M WW that year

let's not act like album sales weren't huge back in 2005

it's just that Rih was never a good album seller

she became huge because of some singles and back to back releases

Aguilera's first 5 years >>>> Rihanna's career (so far)

PartyAnimal

Rihanna easily.

Ariel.

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Originally posted by Walk_Away21

Both are huge but Xtina had her debut -> Mi Reflejo -> Stripped -> B2B which was constant and consistent slayage from 1999-2008. Even her cover of Car Wash went top 10 in a bunch of countries like the UK when it was released.

How much did Mi Reflejo sell? Just wondering

Eternium

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Originally posted by T.C

I think globally Stripped was Xtina's peak. Her debut had a bit of a local ratio.

The ratio doesn't matter, tbh. Selling 100M WW is more than selling 1M WW, even if all of those 100M albums came from one country.

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Originally posted by Mariano

Xtina in the USA, Rihanna WW. Umbrella >>>

ATRL really does not understand what global success is. Rihanna may have been bigger outside of the U.S., but Christina was bigger WW. The United States of America is part of the world. Surprise.

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Originally posted by Roberto

Icon. She's probably the biggest pop star that appeared in music industry since Madonna.

Celine Dion is the biggest female since Madonna. The biggest female pop star since Madonna is Britney.

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Originally posted by Ariel.

Receipts?

Even assuming you're right, there's no way it sold 8 million outside the US when it was only successful in North America and Japan. It flopped everywhere else.

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Originally posted by Mediatraffic

The Album Chart based on sales data and the official national album-charts from the USA (Billboard Top 200)...

Nielsen Soundscan has never counted club sales.
Source: http://www.mediatraffic.de/about-us.htm

I said it sold 15M using your numbers and adding 2M from club sales. That would be 5M outside of the U.S., sis.

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Originally posted by Ariel.

That's still not enough to cover up the massive decline in album sales so it's pointless.

According to Billboard, IFPI, Nielsen, etc., it is. Rihanna has no excuse for poor album sales when she came out in 2005 and ADELE got a Diamond album in 2011.

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Originally posted by idkher

TEAs or whatever only work when comparing current albums though, they aren't relevant at all when comparing albums from the late 90s to albums now

Physical singles had basically disappeared by that point, even if you just wanted one song you had to buy the entire album so of course more total tracks are going to be sold.

The better way to see which album was bigger is comparing it to other releases from the year. GGGB sold more than any other album released in 2007 and Loud was #2 for 2010 releases, compared to CA being #9 for 1999 releases and #8 for Stripped

Sis, they were created to compare current releases to pre-digital era releases. They don't magically "not work" because your fave's sales aren't inflated high enough. "GIAB" sold almost 1.4M physical singles, WAGW sold 600k, I don't have numbers for ITTY and COO(AIWIY) sold 600k, so it's pretty clear Christina did great with single sales even in a quickly dying market.

2007 didn't have any major releases the way 2000 did so it's not really as big an accomplishment to be #1 that year. On top of that, I know for a fact Spirit by Leona Lewis outsold Good Girl Gone Bad and it was released in 2007 as well. I'm not sure of all of 2007's releases and their numbers, but I'm sure we can find a couple more albums that outsold GGGB.

Yooorsh

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Originally posted by Ariel.

How much did Mi Reflejo sell? Just wondering

3 million.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2601348_2.html

Grumpy Gills

Xtina duh