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Discussion: Opinion on State of Israel?
Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 2,667
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Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King
The jews in Israel didn't suffer through the holocaust, their ancestors did. |
Not relevant to all of your arguments, but the Holocaust was NOT that long ago. There are LOTS of Holocaust survivors left.
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Member Since: 9/4/2012
Posts: 4,435
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Originally posted by Hotshot
nnnn because Arabs are the first to attack and wants to claim lands that aren't theirs. Israelites are entitled to the land they are claiming, it's stated by the LAW. Get over it, if you don't follow the law then it's an act of crime/ terrorism. You all support terrorism, right? SMH
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Just to clarify: Jews from Europe that immigrated to Israel are not Israelites. The ancient Israelites were not white.
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Member Since: 3/11/2011
Posts: 2,095
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Makes me sick just mentioning the thieves
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Member Since: 5/10/2011
Posts: 4,200
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Originally posted by Quietly Trek
Just to clarify: Jews from Europe that emigrated to Israel are not Israelites. The ancient Israelites were not white.
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The truth, they are nothing more then Hebrew speaking Gentiles.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
Posts: 6,415
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What they are doing.... Horrible tbh. And coming from Israel, a country.. A culture that suffered so much and should be conscious about the past and not repeating the same history. David turned into Goliath I see  ...
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Member Since: 6/2/2011
Posts: 28,055
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Originally posted by Summerboy95
What they are doing.... Horrible tbh. And coming from Israel, a country.. A culture that suffered so much and should be conscious about the past and not repeating the same history. David turned into Goliath I see ... |
Minorities who are oppressed always have no sympathy whatsoever when it comes to other minorities. It happens all the time, like how white gays are some of the most racist people alive.
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Member Since: 9/3/2011
Posts: 14,867
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Mossad is the shadiest security agency going. 
Israel should be punished for its countless war crimes.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 2,667
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
Minorities who are oppressed always have no sympathy whatsoever when it comes to other minorities. It happens all the time, like how white gays are some of the most racist people alive.
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Yes, go ahead and make such generalizations.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 8,420
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Illegitimate. Corrupt. Cruel. Evil. Aggressive. You don't have to be religious to see this.
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
Posts: 11,092
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Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King
The jews in Israel didn't suffer through the holocaust, their ancestors did.
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You are so ignorant. It's sad.
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Member Since: 12/15/2011
Posts: 13,205
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Originally posted by shelven
If people disagree with Israel having the land, then so be it, but it's ridiculous to say they're "stealing land" because that's just flat out incorrect. Firstly, history has proven that Israel has had Jewish roots for centuries. And by history, I don't mean the Bible - I mean Greek history, Roman history, archaeological discoveries, etc. So it's not like they decided it would be fun to just "steal" land that has always belong to the Palestinians and has never had any Jewish connection.
Secondly, the UN gave Israel the land. If you disagree with the UN's decision, you have the right to do that. But it was a LEGAL, UN decision.
Finally, and most importantly, for all those people who just post the expanding Israel vs. the shrinking Palestine and don't provide any explanation, you can't claim you're unbiased if you don't explain how Israel got its land. Most of the land it got post-1948 was from winning wars. Wars that the various ARAB COUNTRIES started. In fact, after winning the 1967 War, Israel obtained the Sinai Peninsula, an area of land that is bigger than all of modern Israel. Yet they decided to give it BACK to Egypt in exchange for peace. So people who claim that Israel just wants land and not peace, explain why Israel would offer back half of their country just for the promise of peace and nothing else.
As for the argument that the Zionist goal is to make a "purely Jewish state", explain why Arabs not only make up a very significant population of Israel, but also have completely equal right to Jews and even hold seats in the Knesset, Israel's government.
The fact of the matter is that if Hamas agreed lay down its arms, there would be peace. If Israel agreed to lay down its arms, it would be completely eradicated the next day. Like I said, if you feel like the legal UN decision to make Israel a Jewish state was incorrect, you're allowed to think that. But don't pretend that Hamas's goal isn't anything except to get rid of the Jewish people and wipe out Israel.
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See I don't understand this mentality, lets say that someone came to my house armed with weapons and an aid from a very powerful figure and told me Hey this land that you bought with your money & hard work belonged to my ancestors 2000 years ago so I am taking it whether you like it or not, this's simply what happened in Palestine. 
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
Posts: 3,830
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Beautiful country with lovely people and amazing food.
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
Posts: 11,092
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
Posts: 11,092
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Even if Israel did take over Palestinian land, they gave them more rights rather than taking them away more than any other middle east country. Go look it up. You have more equality there than anywhere else in the middle east, yet people still think otherwise. The truth of the matter is, Palestine or Hamas does not want equality. They don't want to share or be equal with Israel.
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Member Since: 9/3/2011
Posts: 14,867
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Benjamin Netanyahu gives serious insanity teas, too. 
An Israel without unconditional US backing is a scary thing tbh. Loose cannon.
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Member Since: 6/2/2011
Posts: 28,055
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Originally posted by Reader
Benjamin Netanyahu gives serious insanity teas, too.
An Israel without unconditional US backing is a scary thing tbh. Loose cannon. |
Syria, Iran, etc would eat it alive without US support.
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
Posts: 6,823
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
Syria, Iran, etc would eat it alive without US support.
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Member Since: 7/23/2010
Posts: 6,705
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
Syria, Iran, etc would eat it alive without US support.
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Israel will prevail with or without the US. They are actually being restrained by the US not to go all out against their enemies. Without the US on the scene, Israel can completely put all their enemies out of business. Israel is an advanced , industrialized, technologically-sophisticated country. They are a major arms exporter.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 1/21/2012
Posts: 13,593
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This is clearly more complicated than some of you think.
The arguments and fighting in here is too much. Going to have to close this.
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