Discussion: Is religion toxic? - Page 3

Deuces

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Originally posted by Latch

I find it quite ironic that Black people are raised to believe so heavily in a religion that was forced up on their enslaved ancestors by people that raped and killed them for generations and no one asks any questions

Something I will truly NEVER understand.

Losing my ground

Ferrer

Yes, and unfortunately I've experienced it firsthand.

Lil Misty

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Originally posted by Latch

I'm Black and a good 98% of my family is Christian
and their lives are dictated by what their religion says is wrong or right

I find it quite ironic that Black people are raised to believe so heavily in a religion that was forced up on their enslaved ancestors by people that raped and killed them for generations and no one asks any questions

Not all black people were enslaved like omg, in fact some helped white people enslave them in Africa, lets get THAT out of the way. Secondly, not everyone holds some sort of weird grudge like this, and learn they can do whatever the hell they may please.

God bless

Latch

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Originally posted by Topherfy

Religion is not toxic in any sense.
People interpret the teachings in a wrong fashion, and bring in a negative stigma into religion. What I mean by this is those imposing their beliefs onto others, or passing judgment because people don't follow their ideologies.
It helps people keep their faith strong, and if that helps them (and they aren't bothering anyone), so let them.

So, I see a lot of people saying this and I see why they're saying it,
but my issue lies with the kinds of things certain religious texts teach to the followers

For example,
the holy bible says that:

“A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.”
(1 Timothy 2:11-14)

So, if Christians begin to adopt misogynistic views and look at women as being weaker than men because of verses like these, then the belief itself is the root of the problem and not necessarily the people since the people are just doing what their religion tells them to do

Lil Misty

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Originally posted by Latch

So, I see a lot of people saying this and I see why they're saying it,
but my issue lies with the kinds of things certain religious texts teach to its followers

For example,
the holy bible says that:

“A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.”
(1 Timothy 2:11-14)

So, if Christians begin to adopt misogynistic views and look at women as being weaker than men because of verses like these, then the belief itself is the root of the problem and not necessarily the people since the people are just doing what their religion tells them to do

Not everyone strictly follows the bible, it's really simple I feel like you're ~trolling~ cause if not...

DevonDreams

No but the taste of your lips are.

Deuces

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Originally posted by Lil Misty

Not everyone strictly follows the bible, it's really simple I feel like you're ~trolling~ cause if not...

They strictly follow Lev. 18:22 though.

Penny.

Ravindra

Nope, unless specific verses are exaggerated/distorted to oblivion to fit someone's narrow opinion aka Westborough baptist Church

Topherfy

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Originally posted by Latch

So, if Christians begin to adopt misogynistic views and look at women as being weaker than men because of verses like these, then the belief itself is the root of the problem and not necessarily the people since the people are just doing what their religion tells them to do

You have to remember the origin of the bibles, and who wrote them. A lot of what went in there was what some people thought, but you can interpret it your own way.
The way my mother (and I guess my parents) take the bible is more of a moral compass, in a way. They know what's right in the bible, and what is really ridiculous and isn't to be followed since it's an archaic view.

I think people who oppose those who are religious is that there is some sort of absolute. You follow everything, or you follow nothing. You can deduce that there are good passages, and bad passages. Combine those metaphors (since the bible has a lot of them), incorporate it to modern days, and shape yourself to be a better person. At the end of the day, everyone wants to be a good person, and some use the bible as a guide, while others find guides elsewhere.