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Poll: Is Beyoncé the biggest star in the world?
View Poll Results: Is Beyoncé the biggest star in the world?
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Yes because she's on a level that doesn't need to rely on the success of your last single to determine her relevancy. When you're there, you're big enough to generate respect on your own.
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Member Since: 6/2/2011
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Originally posted by Honeyßéy
and that's IT boo, Beyonce's star power doesn't STOP at music & fashion like Rihanna. Her star power, influence & respects crosses way more boundaries than Rihanna.
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Like what boundaries?
Music is her main thing. She's not CLOSE to being #1 there. So she can't possibly be the biggest star in the world. And in huge regions of this world, like in most of Latin America and Asia, she is not relevant right now.
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Mariah Carey is/was more succesful than Beyoncé, even though we laugh at Me. I Am Mariah's sales, her other albums outsold everyone's faves. So no.
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Originally posted by rihCanna
Mariah Carey is/was more succesful than Beyoncé, even though we laugh at Me. I Am Mariah's sales, her other albums outsold everyone's faves. So no.
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Uh. If we are going to talk about the past there are bigger stars than Mariah.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by ToLove
Just because Britney isn't selling what she used to, that doesn't mean that Beyonce has "surpassed" her. Just because she's currently doing better than Britney doesn't mean a damn thing. Britney has this thing called a legacy, and unlike Beyonce, her accomplishments can be measured more than in (American) chart success. She peaked long ago, but the sad thing isn't that she is not what she used to be, but that she accomplished more in 5 years than Beyonce has in 17, despite currently being in her "peak" as some of her deluded fans like to call it.
What's sad is that most of Beyonce's hits have been forgotten by the general public.
What's sad is that Beyonce's career has been a line-up of hand-outs thanks to her father and her husband.
What's sad is that Beyonce is only such a big name because she's absolutely terrified of receiving even the slightest form of criticism from anyone, and therefore does all in her power to eliminate anything that could pose a threat.
What's sad is that she wouldn't be where she is today if wasn't for a string of lies, thieving, covering up truths, manipulation, and backstabbing (check Destiny's Child members).
What's sad is that the so-called "revolutionary" album release that was most likely not even idealized by her (but I'm sure she takes credit for everything like always) lost its hype within a month, and only inspired a whopping 1 musical act (Kid Cudi) to follow suit before the "impact" of the album was gone for good.
What's sad is that even though her touring numbers are impressive, she still can't be called "global" since 2/3 of her most recent album's sales comes from the U.S. (funny how you all love to brag about it topping the iTunes charts in 110 countries when its international success is barely half of its American success).
What's sad is how Taylor Swift, an artist whose fans will admit is mostly successful in America, managed to sell more copies of her most recent album outside of the United States, and get hits that were successful for more than 3 weeks, and again, outside of the U.S.
What's sad is how she has done maybe 2 legitimate iconic things throughout her entire career that will actually be remembered years from now.
What's sad is how her fans were cocky about her commercial success in December, and are now acting as if she's above having hit singles, albums that sell well for longer than a month, or promoting her work for it to be successful. Considering how fast Drunk in Love plummeted, how Partition never reached the Top 20, and how Pretty Hurts never even charted, she's not, so they can cut the ****.
So you can keep the tour and album receipts (even though she isn't triumphing everyone like her fan base tries to make it out to be), but do not try coming for someone who actually has an iconic status as a pop star. Do not try coming for someone who actually worked her way to the top without having to rely on powerful connections to get herself into the big leagues. Do not try coming for someone with far more songs, videos, performances, and simply events associated with her that have left marks on pop culture because one thing I'm sure that the Beyonce fans do wish is that people would actually remember the things she does for longer than a few weeks. Why do you think she's going on tour again after just wrapping one up? Because that's the only way she'll keep her name in the headlines. Apparently, her "star power" that her fans praise to the heavens only worked for a limited time, and now she needs to try something new aside from relying on her name alone to sell records. You all like to make fun of Rihanna, Taylor, Katy, etc. for being forgettable artists who haven't made impact on anything aside from the charts, but in reality, Beyonce is no better and her fans are grasping at excuses like straws to convince everyone otherwise.
Now THAT'S sad.
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Just because Britney isn't selling what she used to, that doesn't mean that Beyonce has "surpassed" her. Just because she's currently doing better than Britney doesn't mean a damn thing. Britney has this thing called a legacy, and unlike Beyonce, her accomplishments can be measured more than in (American) chart success. She peaked long ago, but the sad thing isn't that she is not what she used to be, but that she accomplished more in 5 years than Beyonce has in 17, despite currently being in her "peak" as some of her deluded fans like to call it.
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1. it is the point beyhive is showing yall. now thank you for making it clear that chart doesnt matter. so your whole argument is a non-fact.
2. isn't longevity the key? lol I though that being front loaded was a bad thing .... hmm think twice
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What's sad is that most of Beyonce's hits have been forgotten by the general public.
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now you're a liar... Listen, Halo & If I Were A Boy are more covered on talent shows than everything Britney & other peers (minus Legend X) have sung. not even mentioning Crazy In Love, Single Ladies & Irreplaceable are still played and are certified on vevo despite being pre-vevo MV. BOMT has the same views as CIL to start so keep it.
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What's sad is that Beyonce's career has been a line-up of hand-outs thanks to her father and her husband.
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now that's called managers. bye. your fave have ones too.
+ now beyonce is a woman in charge of her career (especially this decade). you tried here too.
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What's sad is that even though her touring numbers are impressive, she still can't be called "global" since 2/3 of her most recent album's sales comes from the U.S. (funny how you all love to brag about it topping the iTunes charts in 110 countries when its international success is barely half of its American success).
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you understand that it's an R&B album with no WW hits? (at this point she doesn't push her singles anymore outside US and yet/.....). you understand that the album had an unorthodox release? no you don't.
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What's sad is how Taylor Swift, an artist whose fans will admit is mostly successful in America, managed to sell more copies of her most recent album outside of the United States, and get hits that were successful for more than 3 weeks, and again, outside of the U.S.
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and yet... she's still a non factor outside US. I live in France and a few people start knowing her. keep your Taylor. NEXT.
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What's sad is how she has done maybe 2 legitimate iconic things throughout her entire career that will actually be remembered years from now.
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 nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn the list of her accomplishements can have you reading for 2 hours and half bye.
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So you can keep the tour and album receipts (even though she isn't triumphing everyone like her fan base tries to make it out to be), but do not try coming for someone who actually has an iconic status as a pop star. Do not try coming for someone who actually worked her way to the top without having to rely on powerful connections to get herself into the big leagues. Do not try coming for someone with far more songs, videos, performances, and simply events associated with her that have left marks on pop culture because one thing I'm sure that the Beyonce fans do wish is that people would actually remember the things she does for longer than a few weeks.
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now YOU're SAD. I'm sorry but Beyoncé actually has talent. this is first. secondly stfu the whole industry has been pushed by someone they knew. it's a tough business. a lot of them have to sell their soul to be that successful. AND I'M TALING ABOUT ALL OF THEM. Michael Jackson, Whitney, included... now stfu. MESST. 
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
Like what boundaries?
Music is her main thing. She's not CLOSE to being #1 there. So she can't possibly be the biggest star in the world. And in huge regions of this world, like in most of Latin America and Asia, she is not relevant right now.
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are you serious... Beyonce has conquered Music, Fashion, Movies, Televison.
She's a major touring act, Beyonce doesn't only inspires artists such as your fave.
She also inspires actresses, dancers, models, & even Legends. What other popstar is
chilling wit the president though. Every artiost from here on out will be inspired by Beyonce in some way. Just stop.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Say what you want about Britney Spears' legacy, but do not try to say that Beyonce has no impact and nothing to be remembered for. That is delusional to believe and nonsensical to claim. Not only is Beyonce extremely important and iconic in pop music, but in the urban community there is pretty much no one bigger.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Why are the britney' stans trying it though ?! Your fav is a forgotten talentless hasbeen  !
Writing paragraph to discredit real legends on pop forum won't change this facts !
I mean, B.j sales and that embarrassing Vegas residency should be enough to show that she's definitely over. People will talk about her for like1 week when she die and that's all ... Can y'all enjoy your past without bringing current successful artist down 
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Member Since: 1/8/2012
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Originally posted by SuperLolita
Why are the britney' stans trying it though ?! Your fav is a forgotten talentless hasbeen  !
Writing paragraph to discredit real legends on pop forum won't change this facts !
I mean, B.j sales and that embarrassing Vegas residency should be enough to show that she's definitely over. People will talk about her for like1 week when she die and that's all ... Can y'all enjoy your past without bringing current successful artist down 
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If Britney is a has been then WHAT do you call bey????
Taking 7+ singles and four years to FINALLY score a top 15 hit this decade?
WOW ICON!!! TRUE TITAN
Embarrassing!
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Originally posted by SuperLolita
Why are the britney' stans trying it though ?! Your fav is a forgotten talentless hasbeen !
Writing paragraph to discredit real legends on pop forum won't change this facts !
I mean, B.j sales and that embarrassing Vegas residency should be enough to show that she's definitely over. People will talk about her for like1 week when she die and that's all ... Can y'all enjoy your past without bringing current successful artist down 
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Such and unnecessary comment. This is why Beyonce gets so much hate, her fan-base is a group of horrible people. I love Beyonce but just by the trash that this kind of members are I like to downgrade her. Just Awful.
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Originally posted by ImmaSlave4u
If Britney is a has been then WHAT do you call bey????
Taking 7+ singles and four years to FINALLY score a top 15 hit this decade?
WOW ICON!!! TRUE TITAN
Embarrassing!
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But what does a single's chart position matter when your album sells as much if not more than those with the top 15 hits. If it takes you 4 years and two albums to get a top 15 hit, while both those albums are multi-week #1 hits, what's the big issue? The Hot 100 is much more affected by trends and one demographic. The Billboard 200 is more accurate for true public appreciation. You're simply using one statistic against Beyonce, but are disregarding the many others that prove Beyonce's relevancy much better than the one you've provided.
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Originally posted by ImmaSlave4u
If Britney is a has been then WHAT do you call bey????
Taking 7+ singles and four years to FINALLY score a top 15 hit this decade?
WOW ICON!!! TRUE TITAN
Embarrassing!
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Sorry, hasbeens don't top Forbes, they also don't sell out stadiums & arenas.
and lastly they don't get multi-platinum albums, sorry Bey is far from a hasbeen.
you tried.
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Member Since: 6/2/2011
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Originally posted by Honeyßéy
are you serious... Beyonce has conquered Music, Fashion, Movies, Televison.
She's a major touring act, Beyonce doesn't only inspires artists such as your fave.
She also inspires actresses, dancers, models, & even Legends. What other popstar is
chilling wit the president though. Every artiost from here on out will be inspired by Beyonce in some way. Just stop.
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1) "conquered" implies that she is the best, the greatest. She is not #1 in any of those mediums, by a long shot. How has she "conquered fashion" exactly? How has she conquered movies or television? Especially globally, which is what this thread is asking. Her two successful films that she starred in (she also starred in Austin Powers 3 and Pink Panther, I know, but those films sold on their brands and would have been a success regardless), Dreamgirls and Obsessed, both bombed outside of the United States. There is an argument to make for Beyonce being the biggest star in the US right now. But globally?
2) Just 
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Originally posted by ToLove
Just because Britney isn't selling what she used to, that doesn't mean that Beyonce has "surpassed" her. Just because she's currently doing better than Britney doesn't mean a damn thing. Britney has this thing called a legacy, and unlike Beyonce, her accomplishments can be measured more than in (American) chart success. She peaked long ago, but the sad thing isn't that she is not what she used to be, but that she accomplished more in 5 years than Beyonce has in 17, despite currently being in her "peak" as some of her deluded fans like to call it.
What's sad is that most of Beyonce's hits have been forgotten by the general public.
What's sad is that Beyonce's career has been a line-up of hand-outs thanks to her father and her husband.
What's sad is that Beyonce is only such a big name because she's absolutely terrified of receiving even the slightest form of criticism from anyone, and therefore does all in her power to eliminate anything that could pose a threat.
What's sad is that she wouldn't be where she is today if wasn't for a string of lies, thieving, covering up truths, manipulation, and backstabbing (check Destiny's Child members).
What's sad is that the so-called "revolutionary" album release that was most likely not even idealized by her (but I'm sure she takes credit for everything like always) lost its hype within a month, and only inspired a whopping 1 musical act (Kid Cudi) to follow suit before the "impact" of the album was gone for good.
What's sad is that even though her touring numbers are impressive, she still can't be called "global" since 2/3 of her most recent album's sales comes from the U.S. (funny how you all love to brag about it topping the iTunes charts in 110 countries when its international success is barely half of its American success).
What's sad is how Taylor Swift, an artist whose fans will admit is mostly successful in America, managed to sell more copies of her most recent album outside of the United States, and get hits that were successful for more than 3 weeks, and again, outside of the U.S.
What's sad is how she has done maybe 2 legitimate iconic things throughout her entire career that will actually be remembered years from now.
What's sad is how her fans were cocky about her commercial success in December, and are now acting as if she's above having hit singles, albums that sell well for longer than a month, or promoting her work for it to be successful. Considering how fast Drunk in Love plummeted, how Partition never reached the Top 20, and how Pretty Hurts never even charted, she's not, so they can cut the ****.
So you can keep the tour and album receipts (even though she isn't triumphing everyone like her fan base tries to make it out to be), but do not try coming for someone who actually has an iconic status as a pop star. Do not try coming for someone who actually worked her way to the top without having to rely on powerful connections to get herself into the big leagues. Do not try coming for someone with far more songs, videos, performances, and simply events associated with her that have left marks on pop culture because one thing I'm sure that the Beyonce fans do wish is that people would actually remember the things she does for longer than a few weeks. Why do you think she's going on tour again after just wrapping one up? Because that's the only way she'll keep her name in the headlines. Apparently, her "star power" that her fans praise to the heavens only worked for a limited time, and now she needs to try something new aside from relying on her name alone to sell records. You all like to make fun of Rihanna, Taylor, Katy, etc. for being forgettable artists who haven't made impact on anything aside from the charts, but in reality, Beyonce is no better and her fans are grasping at excuses like straws to convince everyone otherwise.
Now THAT'S sad.
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ruthless i love it
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Beyoncé is more talented, more relevant, more successful, more popular, more liked and more respected than that other vegas hasbeen. 
Paragraphs doesn't change fact sorry, not everyone is nostalgic as you all especially not the masse. But considering their reputation, i'm not surprised at the army having a rough time realising it right now though . :Y'all living in the past meanwhile Yoncé is scalping your fav in the present

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Originally posted by ToLove
Just because Britney isn't selling what she used to, that doesn't mean that Beyonce has "surpassed" her. Just because she's currently doing better than Britney doesn't mean a damn thing. Britney has this thing called a legacy, and unlike Beyonce, her accomplishments can be measured more than in (American) chart success. She peaked long ago, but the sad thing isn't that she is not what she used to be, but that she accomplished more in 5 years than Beyonce has in 17, despite currently being in her "peak" as some of her deluded fans like to call it.
What's sad is that most of Beyonce's hits have been forgotten by the general public.
What's sad is that Beyonce's career has been a line-up of hand-outs thanks to her father and her husband.
What's sad is that Beyonce is only such a big name because she's absolutely terrified of receiving even the slightest form of criticism from anyone, and therefore does all in her power to eliminate anything that could pose a threat.
What's sad is that she wouldn't be where she is today if wasn't for a string of lies, thieving, covering up truths, manipulation, and backstabbing (check Destiny's Child members).
What's sad is that the so-called "revolutionary" album release that was most likely not even idealized by her (but I'm sure she takes credit for everything like always) lost its hype within a month, and only inspired a whopping 1 musical act (Kid Cudi) to follow suit before the "impact" of the album was gone for good.
What's sad is that even though her touring numbers are impressive, she still can't be called "global" since 2/3 of her most recent album's sales comes from the U.S. (funny how you all love to brag about it topping the iTunes charts in 110 countries when its international success is barely half of its American success).
What's sad is how Taylor Swift, an artist whose fans will admit is mostly successful in America, managed to sell more copies of her most recent album outside of the United States, and get hits that were successful for more than 3 weeks, and again, outside of the U.S.
What's sad is how she has done maybe 2 legitimate iconic things throughout her entire career that will actually be remembered years from now.
What's sad is how her fans were cocky about her commercial success in December, and are now acting as if she's above having hit singles, albums that sell well for longer than a month, or promoting her work for it to be successful. Considering how fast Drunk in Love plummeted, how Partition never reached the Top 20, and how Pretty Hurts never even charted, she's not, so they can cut the ****.
So you can keep the tour and album receipts (even though she isn't triumphing everyone like her fan base tries to make it out to be), but do not try coming for someone who actually has an iconic status as a pop star. Do not try coming for someone who actually worked her way to the top without having to rely on powerful connections to get herself into the big leagues. Do not try coming for someone with far more songs, videos, performances, and simply events associated with her that have left marks on pop culture because one thing I'm sure that the Beyonce fans do wish is that people would actually remember the things she does for longer than a few weeks. Why do you think she's going on tour again after just wrapping one up? Because that's the only way she'll keep her name in the headlines. Apparently, her "star power" that her fans praise to the heavens only worked for a limited time, and now she needs to try something new aside from relying on her name alone to sell records. You all like to make fun of Rihanna, Taylor, Katy, etc. for being forgettable artists who haven't made impact on anything aside from the charts, but in reality, Beyonce is no better and her fans are grasping at excuses like straws to convince everyone otherwise.
Now THAT'S sad.
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An entire essay and you didn't even make any valid points  You honestly just sound upset
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Originally posted by SuperLolita
Beyoncé is more talented, more relevant, more successful, more popular, more liked and more respected than that other vegas hasbeen. 
Paragraphs doesn't change fact sorry, not everyone is nostalgic as you all especially not the masse. But considering their reputation, i'm not surprised at the army having a rough time realising it right now though . :Y'all living in the past meanwhile Yoncé is scalping your fav in the present

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You're so pathetic. Going in our base making sarcastic comments about Britney, and your other threads about her. It's funny you talk about how great Beyoncé is, yet you can't seem to quite get your fun without going to Britney for good or bad to fill that void.
By the way, do something about that AWFUL grammar 
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Like bitches be writing essays and sh*t 
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