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Discussion: Worst mistake of Gaga's Career?
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1) Releasing The Fame Monster as an EP+rerelease of The Fame and not as a stand-alone album/era (with 3/4 more songs).
2) Release Judas too fast.
3) Don't release Venus as the first ARTPOP single.
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Everything after Born This Way (the single) was released.
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Originally posted by helloDer
but she didn't do that though. even BTW (song) was about acceptance in general.. sexual orientation, race, etc.
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And people noted out the archaic and offensive ways she used to sing about acceptance towards 'race'. Oriental? Really? The entirety of Born This Way, the song, was a bit of a blow. Mostly because the lyrics weren't the cheeky and sexy and edgy feel of Bad Romance or Alejandro. It was camp, it was too earnest and preachy. People don't want to be preached to, they want to bop. That's where Gaga went wrong.
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Originally posted by uwannapieceofmeat
Trust me, the "GP" don't care about video delays and her hyping up her records. They just want cool videos and catchy songs, which Gaga hasn't genuinely produced since the Telephone days. I doubt you can ask anyone on the street and ask where Gaga went wrong and they would respond "She hyped ARTPOP too much!". No one actually cares about that ****. They just want a pop star they can look to to give them water cooler moments to talk about in between shifts and to jam to before they go out or dress up as on Halloween. Once you loose that cool factor, that human factor.. people lose interest. That's all. She hasn't done anything recently that would genuinely cause buzz.
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This is true, normal people don't even know what ARTPOP is, they just know applause and that she kept the same idea and she flopped, period.
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Originally posted by helloDer
but she didn't do that though. even BTW (song) was about acceptance in general.. sexual orientation, race, etc.
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Sure the song talks about that, but in interviews and in general her focus were the homosexuals
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also, all of this supposed 'controversy' toward Judas and it's release date must have missed me because I didn't really hear anything of it in real life.
I never understood why stans put the song failing for being 'controversial'. it 'failed' because it's too abrasive, too psycho-sexual and too high concept for the average pop listener. it sounds like Darlene Love being gang banged by the Devil's Angels remixed by Ministry and Max Martin. it's a ****ing mess, conceptually and sonically.
I love it, but it simply wouldn't be a hit, even if it were released on ****ing Halloween.
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Allow that DWUW snippet to leak
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Originally posted by uwannapieceofmeat
also, all of this supposed 'controversy' toward Judas and it's release date must have missed me because I didn't really hear anything of it in real life.
I never understood why stans put the song failing for being 'controversial'. it 'failed' because it's too abrasive, too psycho-sexual and too high concept for the average pop listener. it sounds like Darlene Love being gang banged by the Devil's Angels remixed by Ministry and Max Martin. it's a ****ing mess, conceptually and sonically.
I love it, but it simply wouldn't be a hit, even if it were released on ****ing Halloween.
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Judas wasn't a song you could dance to, and the repetitive chants n' Banshee-esque screaming was graiting to the ears. Judas was unique, but no way in hell should it of ever seen the light of day as a single.
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
Judas wasn't a song you could dance to, and the repetitive chants n' Banshee-esque screaming was graiting to the ears. Judas was unique, but no way in hell should it of ever seen the light of day as a single.
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exactly. ppl want a song they can dance to. they want a song with lyrics that they can relate to.
have you ever tried singing along to judas? you sound like a ****ing maniac! it would have never been a hit, no matter which way they want to spin the narrative.
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Every decision since 2009
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I can't at you all acting like her career is over. Imagine how this thread would be if it had been made in 1993 when Madonna was flopping hard. You could list a thousand "mistakes" she made all through the 80s and early 90s that led to most of her singles underperforming at the time, but look how hard she came back. Gaga has definitely had missteps in her career and she's definitely suffered from overexposure and questionable decisions, but she will bounce back for sure imo.
But more on topic, the Alejandro video was the first thing she ever released that I wasn't crazy about. Had it not been 10 minutes and completely monotonous, it would've been a lot cooler. The DWUW mess is pretty disappointing too as it would've likely been one of her biggest hits, but oh well. I really hope we get a perfect video for Gypsy that smoothly transitions the GP into the C2C era
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Didn't release DWUW as ARTPOP's 1st single.
I can't imagine the smash if she did this tbh.
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Bad press. It seems no matter what she's involved in, there's bad news with it. Born This Way foundation has been exposed as ??? Whatever you could call it. She has gay fans but I can tell ya very few gay people are for here anymore. I'd say less than 1/20 gay men I meet or talk to like her.
Mistakes? Lies. There's so many things she has said that have turned out to be untrue
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Originally posted by Digital_Fossil
Releasing "Born this Way" as a (lead) single. Trust me, it ultimately turned off the general public. I remember hearing people COMPLAINING about that song because it was so over-played.
I honestly think it did irreparable damage.
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Even though it's one of my least-favorte singles from her, I have to say: no matter what song it was, the frist single from the album was going to be over-played because of the huge hype.
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- Allowing people, who are supposedly her friends and team, to make decisions for her
- Allowing the opinions of the general public to affect her emotionally, and professionally
- Drug abuse (and I am not referring to marijuana, although she did have a rough patch)
- Signing with Def Jam Records instead of making a calculated decision in due time
- Mixing business with pleasure, and the apparent/rumoured affair (Speedy, Dada, Fusari)
- Trusting too many people in the music industry which led to men sexually abusing her
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BTW(album and song). She released them way too early in her career tbh.
EDIT: Forgot to add the terrible Alejandro video
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Directing her own videos
Letting go of her super talented team
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Originally posted by Almighty Gaga
God makes no mistakes.
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Only comment in this thread that matters
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Originally posted by PentegramPeterPan
I can't at you all acting like her career is over. Imagine how this thread would be if it had been made in 1993 when Madonna was flopping hard. You could list a thousand "mistakes" she made all through the 80s and early 90s that led to most of her singles underperforming at the time, but look how hard she came back. Gaga has definitely had missteps in her career and she's definitely suffered from overexposure and questionable decisions, but she will bounce back for sure imo.
But more on topic, the Alejandro video was the first thing she ever released that I wasn't crazy about. Had it not been 10 minutes and completely monotonous, it would've been a lot cooler. The DWUW mess is pretty disappointing too as it would've likely been one of her biggest hits, but oh well. I really hope we get a perfect video for Gypsy that smoothly transitions the GP into the C2C era
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Finally, some one with a bit of common sense
It's refreshing to see some one capable of thinking for themselves and not just hopping aboard the bandwagon.
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Quote:
Originally posted by PentegramPeterPan
I can't at you all acting like her career is over. Imagine how this thread would be if it had been made in 1993 when Madonna was flopping hard. You could list a thousand "mistakes" she made all through the 80s and early 90s that led to most of her singles underperforming at the time, but look how hard she came back. Gaga has definitely had missteps in her career and she's definitely suffered from overexposure and questionable decisions, but she will bounce back for sure imo.
But more on topic, the Alejandro video was the first thing she ever released that I wasn't crazy about. Had it not been 10 minutes and completely monotonous, it would've been a lot cooler. The DWUW mess is pretty disappointing too as it would've likely been one of her biggest hits, but oh well. I really hope we get a perfect video for Gypsy that smoothly transitions the GP into the C2C era
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Finally someone with logical sense
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