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Discussion: UK bans creationism from being taught in public schools
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Originally posted by cheers09
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No one is teaching creationism as a scientific theory in a science classroom in the Philippines.
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The UK once again two steps ahead of the US 
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Well I have noticed certain moves made by Western governments through various policies like this one for example to expunge religion from their national life,I believe that by the time atheism presents it's own problem or fails to provide the solution to the problem they want to solve,they might be forced to go back to religion,and it goes on and on in circles.What I am trying to say is that every idea has it's own unique problems,I'm not a strictly religious person but I am not delusional enough to think that athesim is the answer.I just feel like the policy of live and let live,not forcing your ideas on others,like both sides are doing,is the best thing for everyone.
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Originally posted by BlazingLovatic
You don't need god 'in your soul' in order to be a good person. How often have you seen people kill in the name of religion? Compare that to the amount of deaths in the name of Atheism.
Evidently, having a 'godless soul' is not a bad thing.
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The number of people murdered by atheistic communist regimes in just 100 years is 5x greater than the number people killed in religious wars in 2000 years.
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Schools could teach that? Teaching anything religious where I live can get a teacher fired in a hurry 
Is the US the only country where this can be taught or something?
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Originally posted by MiMiLamb
This is not good, now the next generation will be godless souls
Ugh ATHEISTS
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I dunno if you're trolling or not, but I don't get why people act like it's impossible to believe in both God and The Theories of Evolution and Big Bang? Surely it's not a difficult concept to believe that the moment when scientists believe that the Big Bang happened is the moment God said "Let There Be Light"? Perhaps he created the first microscopic creatures and encouraged them to evolve into what we are today? 
Perhaps 1 day to God is millions of years, and right now he's still in the middle of his 7th day and that's why he doesn't get involved in the world, it's his day off?
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Well I have noticed certain moves made by Western governments through various policies like this one for example to expunge religion from their national life,I believe that by the time atheism presents it's own problem or fails to provide the solution to the problem they want to solve,they might be forced to go back to religion,and it goes on and on in circles.What I am trying to say is that every idea has it's own unique problems,I'm not a strictly religious person but I am not delusional enough to think that athesim is the answer.I just feel like the policy of live and let live,not forcing your ideas on others,like both sides are doing,is the best thing for everyone.
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Originally posted by Benjamin
I dunno if you're trolling or not, but I don't get why people act like it's impossible to believe in both God and The Theories of Evolution and Big Bang? Surely it's not a difficult concept to believe that the moment when scientists believe that the Big Bang happened is the moment God said "Let There Be Light"? Perhaps he created the first microscopic creatures and encouraged them to evolve into what we are today?
Perhaps 1 day to God is millions of years, and right now he's still in the middle of his 7th day and that's why he doesn't get involved in the world, it's his day off? |
The story of creation as told in the Bible is an allegory, therefore it gives no dates, and is completely compatible with theories such as the Big Bang and evolution. These theories are only incompatible with biblical literalism
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Originally posted by slimsexy
Well I have noticed certain moves made by Western governments through various policies like this one for example to expunge religion from their national life,I believe that by the time atheism presents it's own problem or fails to provide the solution to the problem they want to solve,they might be forced to go back to religion,and it goes on and on in circles.What I am trying to say is that every idea has it's own unique problems,I'm not a strictly religious person but I am not delusional enough to think that athesim is the answer.I just feel like the policy of live and let live,not forcing your ideas on others,like both sides are doing,is the best thing for everyone.
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You're ignoring the fact the evolution theory is part of science. Its not that hard to get I am all for people believing in what they want, but by what you're saying then we should stop teaching science all together because its forcing an "idea" on to someone else.
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Originally posted by slimsexy
Well I have noticed certain moves made by Western governments through various policies like this one for example to expunge religion from their national life,I believe that by the time atheism presents it's own problem or fails to provide the solution to the problem they want to solve,they might be forced to go back to religion,and it goes on and on in circles.What I am trying to say is that every idea has it's own unique problems,I'm not a strictly religious person but I am not delusional enough to think that athesim is the answer.I just feel like the policy of live and let live,not forcing your ideas on others,like both sides are doing,is the best thing for everyone.
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But atheism doesn't provide a solution for any problem.
Evolution is not tied in any form with it unlike Religion is with Creationism.
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Not to labour the point but I think some people are missing the facts:
Creationism will still be taught in British schools as part of compulsory Religious Education. It will just not be taught as a part of the subject of Science.
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Originally posted by fabbriche
The number of people murdered by atheistic communist regimes in just 100 years is 5x greater than the number people killed in religious wars in 2000 years.
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Am screeching. Someone needs to make this their sig ASAP.
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Originally posted by Blueberry Kisses
Am screeching. Someone needs to make this their sig ASAP.
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That is actually a historical fact that atheists don't like to be pointed out. The atheistic regime of Stalin alone was responsible for 20 million deaths of mostly Orthodox Christians. Mao was responsible for 60 million deaths.
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Originally posted by fabbriche
The number of people murdered by atheistic communist regimes in just 100 years is 5x greater than the number people killed in religious wars in 2000 years.
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What are you talking about? 
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Originally posted by fabbriche
That is actually a historical fact that atheists don't like to be pointed out.
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Give numbers and sources then
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I went to a catholic high school and we were taught about evolution in science, never creationism.
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Originally posted by slimsexy
Well I have noticed certain moves made by Western governments through various policies like this one for example to expunge religion from their national life,I believe that by the time atheism presents it's own problem or fails to provide the solution to the problem they want to solve,they might be forced to go back to religion,and it goes on and on in circles.What I am trying to say is that every idea has it's own unique problems,I'm not a strictly religious person but I am not delusional enough to think that athesim is the answer.I just feel like the policy of live and let live,not forcing your ideas on others,like both sides are doing,is the best thing for everyone.
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While I wholly agree with the underlined section, I don't agree with the emboldened section. Although I can only speak for the UK, the compulsory teaching of religious education for all students is, if anything, doing the opposite of what you argue: it is educating children and young people on religion and allowing them to make their own choices. The point of this act isn't to force out religion from education, it's merely separating it from science.
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I am ok with this 
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Originally posted by slimsexy
Well I have noticed certain moves made by Western governments through various policies like this one for example to expunge religion from their national life,I believe that by the time atheism presents it's own problem or fails to provide the solution to the problem they want to solve,they might be forced to go back to religion,and it goes on and on in circles.What I am trying to say is that every idea has it's own unique problems,I'm not a strictly religious person but I am not delusional enough to think that athesim is the answer.I just feel like the policy of live and let live,not forcing your ideas on others,like both sides are doing,is the best thing for everyone.
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You are right that live and let live is the motto to live by when it comes to faith - and that's why it's important that an institution as large and influential as the government needs to be secular, religious schools should not be funded with public money.
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