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Discussion: I Don't Agree With Homosexuality
Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Originally posted by Dickard
You see all the facets of religion that you disagree with. Religion helps people every day. It gives them hope or something to live for. I don't really follow a specific religion, but I don't condemn the people that do. What you posted was just as ignorant
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Religion also provides people to give undeserving amounts of hate to people who had no choice in their sexuality. 
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Originally posted by Sugar Rush
Religion also provides people to give undeserving amounts of hate to people who had no choice in their sexuality. |
People will always find a way or a crutch to justify their actions or beliefs. Were it not religion, it'd be something else. And again, you're solely looking at the negative aspects of religion
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Originally posted by Dickard
People will always find a way or a crutch to justify their actions or beliefs. Were it not religion, it'd be something else. And again, you're solely looking at the negative aspects of religion
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Well until I'm proven that there's good in religion, I view God nothing more than a Santa Claus/Cupid like fictional figure.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by theoyella jukebox
Religion is and sexuality isn't? Are you hearing yourself?
Those people were referring to the religious fanatics, who you clearly must know of, ie Westboro Baptist Church.
Sexuality isn't a choice or belief. It's a fact of life, just like the color of the sky or way the sun sets every night. Disagreeing with and expressing your disagreement with someone's ignorant beliefs doesn't make you "pathetic, insensitive, hateful, and CRUEL!!11!" The amount of people playing devil's advocate in this thread 
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Define what a fanatic is and compare it to these posts.
Religion is something that goes WAY beyond your lifestyle and YOURSELF, so yes, I called it something more precious. If you knew anything about Christianity, you would know that. Which is a WHOLE other topic. If you don't believe it is so, that is your belief and it should be respected.
I am NOT taking any belief away from you, I respect what you believe it is. My issue, for the umptieth ****ING time, is respect for people who differ from your outstanding opinion.
READ WHAT I WAS SAYING. When you SILENCE someone for their belief and you expect something opposite in return, that's where the problem lies.
Disagreements are GOOD, and with maturity, can ****ing grow and advance everyone.
Hate and immediate closure of another opinion however, is completely wrong.
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Member Since: 12/9/2009
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Originally posted by AlphaOmega
Don't ever think I would give a damn.
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You are SO cool
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You are the literal reason why everything you stand for is a joke.
I mean, look at you.
Not only have you COMPLETELY contradicted yourself..you managed to make yourself seem one-sided and ignorant. By the way "I'm so mad people like you exist.I'll pray that God all mighty (it's almighty by the way, but you seem illiterate so i'll accept it this time) forgives your ignorance" is the most ignorant thing you could have possibly said. Look at the two viewpoints you have merged together and research what a prayer looks like next time, k?
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Quite the ironic statement. You come off as an uneducated, idealistic, religious nut that wants to push their beliefs onto others. I know EXACTLY what I stand for. There is no reasoning with people like you. You are strong-headed and stubborn. You're unwilling to understand anyone else's point of view and mask your stupidity under the guise of a religious crusade. As if you're doing something good for us. Telling US what to do. Everything I stand for does not in any way shape or form need to convince you of anything. You will do nothing for the cause but derail it.
I don't care about your ignorant feelings. And I certainly don't care about your small-minded, misinformed opinions on homophobia. I'd be ignorant to think that there's any reasoning with you. And actually, I know exactly what prayer is like under MY God. You sound like you're trying to impinge upon my religious freedom of practicing MY religion. I don't need you to tell me how I practice. Ironic 
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My argument is clear: respect other opinions. You DO NOT have to accept it, but as someone mature (which you are obviously not) you respect it on them.
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I don't have to do anything. You can sit in your little chair and shake your little fists and I still don't have to do anything. I'm not going to respect anyone's useless opinion. The audacity of you to come in here with your holier-than-thou attitude commanding people to give a **** about your "pathetic, insensitive, hateful, and CRUEL" opinions
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Originally posted by Sugar Rush
Religion also provides people to give undeserving amounts of hate to people who had no choice in their sexuality. |
Your problem is religion, not the fact that homosexuality is a choice.
Chill.
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Member Since: 12/9/2009
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Someone tell AlphaOmega to take a few Sociology classes or something, I really can't
edit - And I can't wait for the rebuttle with "buT religion is BIGGER than sexuality, listen to me, I know what's in your best interest. Please listen to my incoherent, ignorant and hateful opinions because I'm important" sprinkled in with a few digs at my education exemplifying his inability to address the issue instead of how I type on a damn pop music forum nnn
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Member Since: 4/5/2012
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Originally posted by Sugar Rush
Well until I'm proven that there's good in religion, I view God nothing more than a Santa Claus/Cupid like fictional figure.
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Jesus, you're literally just as ignorant. I know of people who claim that because of religion, they didn't commit suicide, or that they have found new hope. Religion DOES help people. But you're just as blinded by your own hatred.
And for the record, I 100% agree with homosexuality. But I also agree with people having the right to believe in whatever they'd like as well (as long as it isn't harming another person).
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Originally posted by ririfan21
Your problem is religion, not the fact that homosexuality is a choice.
Chill.
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For the millionth time you idiot.
HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A CHOICE
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Originally posted by Dickard
Jesus, you're literally just as ignorant. I know of people who claim that because of religion, they didn't commit suicide, or that they have found new hope. Religion DOES help people. But you're just as blinded by your own hatred.
And for the record, I 100% agree with homosexuality. But I also agree with people having the right to believe in whatever they'd like as well (as long as it isn't harming another person).
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Then how come you think people have the right to condem homosexuality and say insults like it's a choice?
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Member Since: 4/5/2012
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Originally posted by Sugar Rush
Then how come you think people have the right to condem homosexuality and say insults like it's a choice? |
When did I ever say that? Lord.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Newt
You are SO cool
Quite the ironic statement. You come off as an uneducated, idealistic, religious nut that wants to push their beliefs onto others. I know EXACTLY what I stand for. There is no reasoning with people like you. You are strong-headed and stubborn. You're unwilling to understand anyone else's point of view and mask your stupidity under the guise of a religious crusade. As if you're doing something good for us. Telling US what to do. Everything I stand for does not in any way shape or form need to convince you of anything. You will do nothing for the cause but derail it.
I don't care about your ignorant feelings. And I certainly don't care about your small-minded, misinformed opinions on homophobia. I'd be ignorant to think that there's any reasoning with you. And actually, I know exactly what prayer is like under MY God. You sound like you're trying to impinge upon my religious freedom of practicing MY religion. I don't need you to tell me how I practice. Ironic
I don't have to do anything. You can sit in your little chair and shake your little fists and I still don't have to do anything. I'm not going to respect anyone's useless opinion. The audacity of you to come in here with your holier-than-thou attitude commanding people to give a **** about your "pathetic, insensitive, hateful, and CRUEL" opinions |
You know what, it is extremely obvious you are not only not willing to see another viewpoint and see where the other side is coming from, but talking to you is literally like talking to a wall. No helpful feedback, no insight, no respect, no healthy dialogue, and absolutely nothing that would benefit anybody who you would talk to.
Do what you want, it's your life, I couldn't give a rats ass. seriously.
When you have an ear to hear, please come back to this thread and read what I said in full.
I'm tired of repeating the same **** to you people. It's just making people angry, defensive, and hateful.
Your not mature enough. You really are just not. I thought this thread would be a great platform to discuss everything and seeing all sides of the spectrum, but after I read the posts, it's clear it's not.
Spare me a response, I am not going to read it. Your whole last paragraph was so comical I just can't take you seriously after this moment.
I am just going by what you are saying.
One last thing,
when you see threads or discussions like this in the future, when you are wondering why there is so much absolute hate and CONFUSION when it comes to this topic, remember every.single.one.of.your.responses.
maybe it'll ignite a lightbulb over your head.
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Originally posted by Dickard
When did I ever say that? Lord.
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You said people have the right to believe in what they want.
Truth is most religious people beliefs are attacking the LGBT community. Kids are kicked out of homes because of "beliefs" kids commit suicide because "beliefs" and you still think these psychos are entitled to share there harmful beliefs?
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by AlphaOmega
Define what a fanatic is and compare it to these posts.
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Compare a religious fanatic who blindly believes that hating someone because of who they love and posts made by gay people who have endured heterosexism and homophobia for as long as they have lived? I'm not seeing how that helps your argument.
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Originally posted by AlphaOmega
Religion is something that goes WAY beyond your lifestyle and YOURSELF, so yes, I called it something more precious.
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That is your opinion, and you are stating it as fact.
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Originally posted by AlphaOmega
If you knew anything about Christianity, you would know that. Which is a WHOLE other topic. If you don't believe it is so, that is your belief and it should be respected.
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I happen to know a lot about Christianity, being a former pastor's kid and all. I don't believe because I'm atheist, thx for respecting my disbelief.
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Originally posted by AlphaOmega
I am NOT taking any belief away from you, I respect what you believe it is. My issue, for the umptieth ****ING time, is respect for people who differ from your outstanding opinion.
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Calm down, you don't need to get so worked up. Also, respecting another person's beliefs and disagreeing with their beliefs aren't opposite. There is a respectful way to disagree with people, and maybe some people in this thread haven't expressed it respectfully, but can you really blame them? Really?
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Originally posted by AlphaOmega
READ WHAT I WAS SAYING. When you SILENCE someone for their belief and you expect something opposite in return, that's where the problem lies.
Disagreements are GOOD, and with maturity, can ****ing grow and advance everyone.
Hate and immediate closure of another opinion however, is completely wrong.
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Not sure where this is coming from. But I sorta understand what you're saying. You need a  however.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Sugar Rush
Then how come you think people have the right to condem homosexuality and say insults like it's a choice? |
Saying "homosexuality is a choice" isn't an insult. It's inaccurate and ignorant, sure, but insulting? I don't see it.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Sazare
Saying "homosexuality is a choice" isn't an insult. It's inaccurate and ignorant, sure, but insulting? I don't see it.
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Considering how much **** homosexuals have to go through, it is insulting to insinuate that they've chosen it themselves.
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Originally posted by Sazare
Saying "homosexuality is a choice" isn't an insult. It's inaccurate and ignorant, sure, but insulting? I don't see it.
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It is an insult. 
That's like me saying, "You choosing to be black is a choice" because you know people have total control in what skin colour they are.
To come for me and say I CHOSE to be gay that I CHOSE to cut myself that I CHOSE TO ATTEMPT SUICIDE BECAUSE OF THESE RELIGIOUS FREAKS SAYING IT WAS "MY CHOICE"?
Yes it's ****ing insulting and makes you sound like you have an IQ of a rock when you make ignorant comments like that.
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How homosexuality can't be a choice?
I wish y'all knew the gay people I seen and talked to.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by ririfan21
How is homosexuality can't be a choice?
I wish y'all knew the gay people I seen and talked to.
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Did you choose your sexuality? Did you fill in a form?
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Originally posted by ririfan21
How homosexuality can't be a choice?
I wish y'all knew the gay people I seen and talked to.
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Are you two? Are you dumb? Or are you both?
That's like me saying "How can being black can't be a choice?", "How can being poor can't be a choice?".
I didn't magically wake up on day and say "Hey mom I decided I like men". No it doesn't happen like that. People like you are what's holding back society. You're SO IGNORANT, SO UNEDUCATED and truth is there isn't a need for people like you in this world. You're better off keeping your mouth shut than proving to the world how big of an idiot you are.
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