Famous for effectively killing/ending the Egyptian civilization, yes. #flopqueen

Oop

chica don't turn this into a religon debate mess, there is evidence that Jesus existed, therefore his mother most likely existed as well.

She prolonged it for a while if anything, the Egyptians would have been conquered either way, the romans were scalping left and right.

I know my research, I've studied Egyptology for a while. Her mother may have been African but Cleopatra was also from a long line of Greek/Macedonians. At the most I would say she was perhaps mixed raced, but she wasn't black. I see her skin tone as probably most similar to modern-day Arabic people. She has been whitewashed in entertainment, that's for sure. Angelina Jolie and Elizabeth Taylor are definitely lighter than she would have been, but I think her skin-tone was more olive.

Cleopatra, her ARTPOP could mean anything.

too bad Caesar and Mark Antony's couldn't

If you have a black mother then you may be black too, are we going to ignore her mother's bloodline and only acknowledge her father's as the only accurate one?

Cleopatra
Born: 69 BC

Mary
Born: 18 BC

No. I already previously stated she wasn't white either? But to say she's black is simply not true. Mixed race is probably most appropriate. But I didn't expect this to turn into a racial debate, she was a very fascinating woman regardless of skin colour.

I agree, her race shouldn't have even come up tbh.

Mixed race is black though. See Mariah, Alicia, & Halle for reference .

Ummm, mixed race is mixed race...
Why is half of their heritage being ignored ?

You are absolutely right, scalp me a bit


Of course she was real, I wasn't arguing that. Bye HA IMPACT is more theological than political / cultural, imo

69 BC came before 18 BC. BC decreases in physical number as your progress through the years, while AD increases in number.

you tried though.

Well all black people are mixed with something, so in that case we should not even acknowledge black as a race.

oh, okay, okay.

Nnnnn, of course black is a race. But then basically everyone is mixed when you think of it? We all originated in Africa and have spread since then so I suppose the only true race is the HUMAN race, regardless of skin colour.

Cleopatra was Greek, she descended from Ptolemy, who was connected to Alexander the Great. Cleaopatra's family did some heavy incest, they didn't want to mix with the Egyptians to keep the blood royal, or more divine. So she was African since Egypt is in Africa, however she was not black. North Africans are genetically white, also she was Greek by blood.

Yes, but the point was that they weren't 300 years apart.

Looks like #YouTried.



Mary, ha impact and longevity >>>
Who else but the mother of god?

Queen of Virgins .
IVF 2000 years in the past.