Poll: Should the Government help illegal Immigrants?

Caesar

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#2 According to one study, the cost to U.S. taxpayers of legalizing current illegal immigrants would be approximately 6.3 trillion dollars over the next 50 years.

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#7 Thanks to illegal immigration, California’s overstretched health care system is on the verge of collapse. Dozens of California hospitals and emergency rooms have shut down over the past decade because they could not afford to stay open after being endlessly swamped by illegal immigrants who were simply not able to pay for the services that they were receiving. As a result, the remainder of the health care system in the state of California is now beyond overloaded. This had led to brutally long waits, diverted ambulances and even unnecessary patient deaths. At this point, the state of California now ranks dead last out of all 50 states in the number of emergency rooms per million people.

#8 It has been estimated that U.S. taxpayers spend $12,000,000,000 a year on primary and secondary school education for the children of illegal immigrants.

SOURCE: http://www.rightsidenews.com/2013081...ould-know.html

I don't think the US government should be, there not even here legally and they get benefits too? There just adding on to our debt if anything.

IBeMe

hum tricky question tbh. i will let the gurls serve us with their knowledge

Deuces

I'm too uninformed to make form a non-ignorant opinion on this. But my ignorant opinion is no.

RatedG²

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Originally posted by Mr. Deuces

I'm too uninformed to make form a non-ignorant opinion on this. But my ignorant opinion is no.

Same.

my ignorant opinion is yes

Kinuotose

I kinda feel a little bit of ignorance and racism from you but whatevs.

pxxxtrick

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Originally posted by Deuces

I'm too uninformed to make form a non-ignorant opinion on this. But my ignorant opinion is no.

same.

PopNStuff

Next time, before opening a thread, do some research.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...ed-immigrants/

All those so-called facts that are listed on the article you posted come from groups like the Heritage Foundation, who have already been exposed as racist and wrong.

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A co-author of the already controversial new Heritage Foundation study — the one that claims to show immigration reform will cost the U.S. $6.3 trillion dollars — wrote in 2009 that the government should grant immigrants visas based on IQ, and that "No one knows whether Hispanics will ever reach IQ parity with whites, but the prediction that new Hispanic immigrants will have low-IQ children and grandchildren is difficult to argue against." The co-author, Jason Richwine, wrote that for his public policy doctoral thesis, The Washington Post's Dylan Matthews reports. Richwine wrote that the U.S. should use the term "skill-based" instead of IQ-based to "blunt the negative reaction." Thus Richwine is able to provide the missing link between the oafish Donald Trump, who said at CPAC, "Why aren't we letting people in from Europe?" and more mainstream explanations of the controversy among conservatives over immigration. "It's going to be a much easier lift to solve the problem of high-skilled workers," Alabama Rep. Spencer Bachus said in February.

The most obvious problem with Heritage's study is its economic analysis, not social analysis. When CNBC's Larry Kudlow asked Robert Rector, the lead author of the Heritage study, whether it takes into account economic growth from immigration, Rector said, "No."

http://www.thewire.com/politics/2013...ichwine/65005/

even his own organization dismissed his report and him after he released it.

HausOfGerard

Nope.

PopNStuff

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It’s not just the Heritage Foundation’s research that’s controversial.

The conservative think tank earlier this week published a study – denounced by other conservatives – that concluded legalizing 11 million immigrants would end up costing taxpayers $6.3 trillion. By Wednesday the scrutiny had shifted to one of the report’s coauthors, Jason Richwine.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/0...or-under-fire/

Retro

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Originally posted by PopNStuff

Next time, before opening a thread, do some research.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...ed-immigrants/

All those so-called facts that are listed on the article you posted come from groups like the Heritage Foundation, who have already been exposed as racist and wrong.

http://www.thewire.com/politics/2013...ichwine/65005/

even his own organization dismissed his report and him after he released it.

nnn welp.

BGKC

TBH I would NEVER live along the Mexican border. Not solely based on illegal immigration, because a lot of those immigrants built much of the communities they live in and by, but because Americans around there tend to be conservative, ungrateful, and spiteful, as if the Mexicans (Basically Native Americans if you really want to get down to it) have no right to be there, making it difficult for them to even become a tax paying citizen. There's also the illegals that go to the US just to go back home years after they make enough money to live a better life in Mexico, which is understandable considering how rough it is to get by in Mexico, but really,if the US is what you needed to be a success in Mexico, why even go back? Just stay, gain a citizenship, and show your thanks by paying taxes tbh... but that's karma based on the our nations history, so IDC. I just won't live around it.

Skywalker

No but I am ignorant on the topic so it means little.

dayydreaam

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Originally posted by BGKC

TBH I would NEVER live along the Mexican border. Not solely based on illegal immigration, because a lot of those immigrants built much of the communities they live in and by, but because Americans around there tend to be conservative, ungrateful, and spiteful, as if the Mexicans (Basically Native Americans if you really want to get down to it) have no right to be there, making it difficult for them to even become a tax paying citizen. There's also the illegals that go to the US just to go back home years after they make enough money to live a better life in Mexico, which is understandable considering how rough it is to get by in Mexico, but really,if the US is what you needed to be a success in Mexico, why even go back? Just stay, gain a citizenship, and show your thanks by paying taxes tbh... but that's karma based on the our nations history, so IDC. I just won't live around it.

Not all immigrants are from mexico, google is your friend

ReginaPhalange

BGKC

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Originally posted by dayydreaam

Not all immigrants are from mexico, google is your friend

Well no ****.

The OP mentioned CA's economic crisis relating to illegal immigration, which has almost everything to do with bordering Mexico. 60% of illegals in CA are from Mexico. So yea, they're the main focus in my argument.
You go figure. You might as well interchange Mexico with the rest of Central/South America as well, considering much of the rest of the 40% is from Central/South America.

PeggySue22

Nope. Why should someone who doesn't pay taxes reap tax payers benefits? But then again, the US shouldn't make it so hard to become a US citizen.

Edit: then again if it took more than just having a baby over here to be able to stay (plus getting gov't assistance because their babies are US citizens) I personally feel like immigration wouldn't be as big of a problem as it is.

Royal Culture

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Originally posted by Deuces

I'm too uninformed to make form a non-ignorant opinion on this. But my ignorant opinion is no.

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Summertime Love

I think that YES.

WarriorQueen

Nope!

XIAN

for a sec i thought the thread would be "Should the Government help flopping pop stars"

but with the undocumented, i think yes