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Decision '08: Barack Obama wins the election
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LMAO She's a been a governor, for like, eighteen months? And McCain's ready to croak at any minute? BRILLIANT CHOICE.
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Member Since: 11/22/2004
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
LMAO She's a been a governor, for like, eighteen months?
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Wasn't Obama in the senate for a year before he announced he was going to run?
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It's, clearly, a move designed to get the Hillary supporters. The problem is that it's a bit too late, especially after her speech on Tuesday. The more and more I think about her speech, the more and more I think that it's the death knell for the McCain campaign, ESPECIALLY after this decision.
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Wasn't Obama in the senate for a year before he announced he was going to run?
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He was also an Illinois State Senator for eight years prior to becoming a U.S. Senator.
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LMAO. I take back anything I said about McCain. He is toast. 
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Basically this move solidifies any Clinton supporters desire to vote McCain as a protest vote. At least this way they'll feel less guilty about it because a woman is on board. I'm sure Obama has made big plans to try to get to these supporters, but now it's just going to be a waste of money and time.
The Obama campaign does have a few ups though. The biggest one being that she is far inexperienced for Primetime. McCain's age has been Water Cooler talk for a long time now, and the thought that if he dies she becomes the next president will turn some away. Also the cheap tactic of using/exploiting a woman for the sole purpose of stealing votes from the opponent will surely anger some women.
And what about Joe Biden? He was expected to crush whoever the VP was in the debates, but with a woman he will have to be very careful with how he goes about this.
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Originally posted by Athens
Basically this move solidifies any Clinton supporters desire to vote McCain as a protest vote. .
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Which is STILL retarded as both McCain and Palin are pro-life. What the hell is the use of loyalist Clinton voters protesting by voting for them now?
Palin is such a weird choice. Besides being governor for 2 years and a mayor before that for 3 (which equals half as long as Obama) she is also under invesitgation by the Republicans in the Alaska senate for ethics violations. Since she overrode her own employees and fired a police officer.
Who is now her sister's ex. Yeah, no issues there, especially as the people over police told her they would not fire him.
Biden is gonna beat this poor woman down hard, which might get some sympathy votes, but this should be a cakewalk for Obama/Biden to November 4. Watch them **** this up sideways -_-
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Originally posted by Athens
Basically this move solidifies any Clinton supporters desire to vote McCain as a protest vote. At least this way they'll feel less guilty about it because a woman is on board. I'm sure Obama has made big plans to try to get to these supporters, but now it's just going to be a waste of money and time.
The Obama campaign does have a few ups though. The biggest one being that she is far inexperienced for Primetime. McCain's age has been Water Cooler talk for a long time now, and the thought that if he dies she becomes the next president will turn some away. Also the cheap tactic of using/exploiting a woman for the sole purpose of stealing votes from the opponent will surely anger some women.
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Well, first off, I think the "croak factor" isn't as big of a deal as some make it out to be. His mother's STILL FREAKING ALIVE. Chances are good that he'd make it through his first term, at least.
Anywho, if this had happened, say, before Hillary's speech on Tuesday, I'd be inclined to agree with you, and I would agree that Obama's efforts were all for naught. But Hillary made her allegiances known on Tuesday, and, basically, said, "If you support me and then turn and support McCain, you don't support me. Period."
If anything, this just makes McCain look like he's grasping for straws, moreso than he already was. Mitt Romney, as much as I don't like the guy, was the PERFECT counter-balance for McCain, and McCain ****ing blew it, only to try to get one up on Obama.
The one positive thing this does is move attention away from the fact that McCain is about as anti-woman as any politician gets. And to those who say, "Well, he just chose a woman as his running mate, so, obviously, he can't be TOO anti-woman"...um, if you're a woman, and you vote for McCain, you might as well be saying that you don't care about yourself or your rights or your ability to choose. Hell, just consider the fact that McCain would do away with Roe v. Wade, if elected. Think about that for a minute.
A vote for McCain is a vote against women. This decision just illuminates that fact that much more.
This is just ****ing disgusting on so many levels. **** you, John McCain. ****. YOU.
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Member Since: 11/24/2006
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Did u watch Palin's speech¿
She just kept talking about "Todd" all the time, lmao.
Go McCain.
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
Go McCain.
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**** you.
That's my response to you, every time you post "Go McCain", from now on.
You want to play ball? Well, let's ****ing play ball.
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Member Since: 8/27/2006
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Great pick VP pick from Sen. McCain. After hearing about her a few months ago, I already started liking her. She's charismatic, intelligent, to the point and not afraid of challenge apparently.
Here is some info of Gov. Palin
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Palin made an unsuccessful bid for Lieutenant Governor, coming in second to Loren Leman in a four-way race. After Frank Murkowski resigned from his long-held U.S. Senate seat in mid-term to become governor, Palin interviewed to be his possible successor. Instead, Murkowski appointed his daughter, then-Alaska State Representative Lisa Murkowski.
Governor Murkowski appointed Palin Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, where she served from 2003 to 2004 until resigning in protest over what she called the "lack of ethics" of fellow Alaskan Republican leaders, who ignored her whistleblowing complaints of legal violations and conflicts of interest. After she resigned, she exposed the state Republican party's chairman, Randy Ruedrich, one of her fellow Oil & Gas commissioners, who was accused of doing work for the party on public time, and supplying a lobbyist with a sensitive e-mail. Palin filed formal complaints against both Ruedrich and former Alaska Attorney General Gregg Renkes, who both resigned; Ruedrich paid a record $12,000 fine.
Palin, running on a clean-government campaign, executed an upset victory over then-Gov. Murkowski in the Republican gubernatorial primary. Despite the lack of support from party leaders and being outspent by her Democratic opponent, she went on to win the general election in November 2006, defeating former Governor Tony Knowles. Palin said in 2006 that education, public safety, and transportation would be three cornerstones of her administration.
When elected, Palin became the first woman to be Alaska's governor, and the youngest governor in Alaskan history at 42 years old upon taking office. Palin was also the first Alaskan governor born after Alaska achieved U.S. statehood. She was also the first Alaskan governor not to be inaugurated in Juneau, instead choosing to hold her inauguration ceremony in Fairbanks. She took office on December 4, 2006.
Highlights of Governor Palin's tenure include a successful push for an ethics bill, and also shelving pork-barrel projects supported by fellow Republicans. Palin successfully killed the Bridge to Nowhere project that had become a nationwide symbol of wasteful earmark spending. "Alaska needs to be self-sufficient, she says, instead of relying heavily on 'federal dollars,' as the state does today."
She has challenged the state's Republican leaders, helping to launch a campaign by Lieutenant Governor Sean Parnell to unseat U.S. Congressman Don Young and publicly challenging Senator Ted Stevens to come clean about the federal investigation into his financial dealings. Fred Barnes of The Weekly Standard praised Palin as a "politician of eye-popping integrity" and referred to her rise as "a great (and rare) story of how adherence to principle—especially to transparency and accountability in government—can produce political success."
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Originally posted by Red
**** you.
That's my response to you, every time you post "Go McCain", from now on.
You want to play ball? Well, let's ****ing play ball.
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On your earlier comment, you have a point. I'm not entirely convinced that this won't landslide in McCain's favor in the end, but after watching her speech at the announcement, it's easy to tell that he's reaching very far with this choice.
That part about Geraldine Ferraro, Hillary Clinton and the 18 million cracks made me laugh pretty hard because it screamed desperation. If he really wants to pull this off he would have let women come to that conclusion on their own instead of making her say "Hey i'm a woman and i'm here to take over where Hillary left off".
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
Did u watch Palin's speech¿
She just kept talking about "Todd" all the time, lmao.
Go McCain.
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**** you hard. With a knife. 
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Clinton congratulates Palin
(CNN) – Hillary Clinton praised the historic nature of John McCain's vice presidential selection in a brief statement released Friday that was eagerly anticipated by both presidential campaigns.
“We should all be proud of Governor Sarah Palin's historic nomination, and I congratulate her and Senator McCain," Clinton, the first woman to win a presidential primary, said in the statement. "While their policies would take America in the wrong direction, Governor Palin will add an important new voice to the debate.”
The McCain campaign has made little secret of the fact the selection of Palin — the first woman to appear on a Republican presidential ticket — was in part designed to court supporters of Clinton's White house bid, some of whom feel the New York senator was treated unfairly during the primaries because of her gender and remain wary of supporting Obama.
Palin directly mentioned Clinton by name in her acceptance speech earlier Friday, saying, "Hillary left 18 million cracks in the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America. But it turns out the women of America aren't finished yet, and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all."
Clinton's statement reacting to Palin is markedly different than the Obama campaign's initial reaction which made no mention of the historic nature of the Alaska Republican's VP candidacy — instead painting her as woefully inexperienced to be commander-in-chief. The Obama campaign later released a joint statement from both the Illinois senator and his running mate, Joe Biden, praising Palin for making history.
It remains unclear just how many former Clinton supporters Palin may attract, but California Sen. Barbara Boxer said Friday that McCain is "badly mistaken" if he expects backers of the New York senator to break ranks with the Democratic party because of Palin.
Source: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...tulates-palin/
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"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency."

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Palin directly mentioned Clinton by name in her acceptance speech earlier Friday, saying, "Hillary left 18 million cracks in the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America. But it turns out the women of America aren't finished yet, and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all."
Well thanks for putting exactly why you were chosen.
I unfortunately feel Clinton supporters are dumb enough to vote McCain due to this. I mean they were being stupid in not supporting Obama when Clinton was booted from the spotlight, so yeah, get ready for Bush Part Trois.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
I unfortunately feel Clinton supporters are dumb enough to vote McCain due to this.
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You're underestimating the vast majority of Clinton supporters. Of course there are a few crazies out there, but they're being overrepresented (because they're the most vocal; the most insane). Most of her supporters have enough sense and they are united with Obama now. This is a desperate move and it's too little, too late.
The women who are gonna vote for McCain/Palin were already a lock for McCain anyway.
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Member Since: 7/7/2005
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OBAMA put on for his country!!!!!!!!
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McCain is really using the camouflage effect. He sure does play dirty. Using Palin to cover up being anti-woman like Red posted earlier.
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Originally posted by Yahhh!
"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency."

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But isn't kinda hypocritical for the Obama/DNC camp to say that when they themselves is putting someone with zero foreign policy straight for the office.
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I unfortunately feel Clinton supporters are dumb enough to vote McCain due to this.
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Wouldn't that be just as dumb as people voting for Obama because he is cool, or his play list is better than the other candidate?
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