Discussion: Why is Rihanna forgiven for so many underperfoming singles? - Page 6

Comedor

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Originally posted by Lein

Well..are they?

What does Rihanna have that Katy and Gaga don't?

Katy has a more impressive chart run than Rihanna. Only 3 albums and 9 hits, Rihanna has 7 or 8 albums and 13 hits.

Rihinvention

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Originally posted by TalkThatTalk

Flops in the US

#64 Rockstar - video + 1 tv performance

#37 Californica King Bed - video + 2 TV performances - +160M views

#59 Man Down - only video - +260M V

#31 TTT - none

#14 YD1 - only video (platinum) - +100M V

#50 Right Now - none

#25 What Now - video - +95M V

when will your faves flops get Vevo certified?

EloiseheartsRiRi

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Originally posted by 22 Two's

I guess we're not on the same level so it's not the same logic to apply

whats your logic? we're talking bout flops. cheers wasn't one. navy has just striken again.

The fact that she is the Top Hot 100 artist of the 2010s decade speaks for itself. She has too much success compared to underperformances. She has achieved 13 number 1 singles. 27 top ten singles.Sit.

#ADOU

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Originally posted by EmRiNavy

Let's get this straight tho
Right Now - 0 promo, no video - Top 50 (G.U.Y - Video and performance, 76 I think?)
What Now - video, 1 performance in UK - Top 25, bigger than other lead singles.
Cockiness - No video, 1 performance + she released Diamonds 2 weeks after
Talk That Talk - No video, 1 UK performance
Man Down - Huge hit in Europe + no performance
CKB - well this was a flop

So, LACK OF PROMO would be the explanation. Please stop trying to say she has so many flops when it's not the truth

THE AMOUNT OF EXCUSES!!

sgcat

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Originally posted by Rihinvention

Of course, but this isn't a competition. You're just asking why she's forgiven, and like this person said:

There's nothing to forgive. No one forgives Rihanna because she picks up her **** and she moves on. People don't see What Now as flopping because no one ever really expected it to smash. That was her expressing her artistic integrity with that video. That was risky af, especially when she had Jump, Nobody's Business and Phresh Out The Runway on her album.

im not saying its a competition. i was just asking why are gaga and katy getting dragged more. and you stated rihanna's % as a reason. but katy's % is higher which makes your argument invalid.

Bey_Rihstan

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Originally posted by TalkThatTalk

Flops in the US

#64 Rockstar - video + 1 tv performance

#37 Californica King Bed - video + 2 TV performances - +160M views

#59 Man Down - only video - +260M V

#31 TTT - none

#14 YD1 - only video (platinum) - +100M V

#50 Right Now - none

#25 What Now - video - +95M V

when will your faves flops get Vevo certified?

Didn't you already post this

thegmangrant

Oh my gosh, "Why is Rihanna forgiven?"

Give me a ****ing break. You people are so ridiculous.

PULSE.

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Originally posted by Fenty The Great

Rihanna had 3 back to back #1 singles that era sis

She didn't need to rush anything.She was already recording TTT when LOUD was slaying. You can't come for her when other girls are struggling to keep momentum past the first single

Are you stu·pid or nah?

After R̶a̶i̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶M̶e̶n̶ ,CKB and Man Down flopped, they rushed out Cheers. After You Da One flopped they rushed out Where Have You Been then another flop came after and BAM new album. Rihanna's team pushes out a lot of singles. There is no denying it.

RihannaLoverrr

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Originally posted by EmRiNavy

Let's get this straight tho
Right Now - 0 promo, no video - Top 50 (G.U.Y - Video and performance, 76 I think?)
What Now - video, 1 performance in UK - Top 25, bigger than other lead singles.
Cockiness - No video, 1 performance + she released Diamonds 2 weeks after
Talk That Talk - No video, 1 UK performance
Man Down - Huge hit in Europe + no performance
CKB - well this was a flop

So, LACK OF PROMO would be the explanation. Please stop trying to say she has so many flops when it's not the truth

Clock them.

Rihinvention

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Originally posted by Comedor

What does Rihanna have that Katy and Gaga don't?

Katy has a more impressive chart run than Rihanna. Only three albums and 9 hits, Rihanna has 7 or 8 albums and 13 hits.

So suddenly this is about ratios and fractions? Because all I see is you bragging about how Rihanna has 4 more number 1s and 4 more albums.

Bey_Rihstan

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Originally posted by #ADOU

THE AMOUNT OF EXCUSES!!

It's answering the OPs question tho.

Rider

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Originally posted by #ADOU

THE AMOUNT OF EXCUSES!!

Excuses? Those are facts, not excuses. How do you expect a song to smash if you won't promote it?

sgcat

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Originally posted by One Nation

Not to mention that ICON actually takes risks when.... nvm

so taking risks is a valid excuse for underperformance? i see, thats a new argument here.

NewRihannaStan

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Originally posted by PULSE.

Are you stu·pid or nah?

After R̶a̶i̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶M̶e̶n̶ ,CKB and Man Down flopped, they rushed out Cheers. After You Da One flopped they rushed out Where Have You Been then another flop came atfer and BAM new album. Rihanna's team pushes out a lot of singles. There is no denying it.

Actually boo boo . YD1 was a top 15 hit. But they released TTT after YD1

if you wanna drag at least know your stuff ..!!

Rihinvention

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Originally posted by PULSE.

Are you stu·pid or nah?

After R̶a̶i̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶M̶e̶n̶ ,CKB and Man Down flopped, they rushed out Cheers. After You Da One flopped they rushed out Where Have You Been then another flop came atfer and BAM new album. Rihanna's team pushes out a lot of singles. There is no denying it.

You Da One. Released: November 14, 2011 (peaked at #14)
Where Have You Been. Released: May 8, 2012 (peaked at #5)

Even if this was true, what's wrong with rush-releasing? Rush-releasing is actually the smart thing to do to mark the GP forget and move on to the next big smash hit. Look at Dark Horse and Unconditionally. You say rush-release like it's a bad thing hahahahaha

DILF $

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Originally posted by Comedor

Are you saying Katy and Gaga are not icons?

FattMatt

Because she can easily rebound

Poor other girls who can't

MusicTalker

Because little flops don't matter when you have as many global behemoth smashes as Rihanna.

Riha'love

You don't have to "punish" or "forgive" someone for a flop single

More Katy and Gaga will have albums more they will have hits and more they will have flops too. It's like that. It's not a big deal.

PULSE.

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Originally posted by EmRiNavy

Excuses? Those are facts, not excuses. How do you expect a song to smash if you won't promote it?

Wait one min.

Well look at this a double standard here.