Discussion: Do you believe in submissive marriages? - Page 3

Planet Mars

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Originally posted by J03Y

yes, but there still needs to be someone with a little more responsibility. you can be equal but still have a leader and it'll work. i see it with my parents all the time, and they are NOT the stereotypical radical Christian married couple. my mom even calls my dad out on his ****, the marriage is biblical but it's not traditional and it works. it's very possible to be equals but have a leader. it's because you work through your differences and accept the fact that it's not up to YOU it's up to both of you coming to some kind of decision and the leader making the final one, presented with all of the information.

it's a relationship that's built on trust that the leader will make the right decision and sticking with them even if it ends up not being so. if you trust that person enough then i works. if you can't then i strongly suggest you don't marry them. relationships need trust.

Could'ne have said it better myself

In marriage these had to be the sharing of responsibilities but one partner often gets the bulk of them.

Vin

Ah. Well, if it's in The Bible, then...

...Vin

J03Y

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Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine

Variation in divorce rates by religion:

Religion % have been divorced
Jews 30%
Born-again Christians 27%
Other Christians 24%
Atheists, Agnostics 21%

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

that's really sad

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Originally posted by Wonderland

But you are when you say thaT.
What if the man and woman can do something, and the woman wants to do it?
Under that logic, she isn't allowed to do it.

this is a matter of religious principles. according to the religion, the man is the head of the house. if you're not Christian you don't do this

Planet Mars

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Originally posted by Janie

was your op funny? no! it was disgusting. and that's what I was showing you

also, it's funny that you call a woman who doesn't agree with a man's opinion "butthurt"

My OP was disgusting?

Youre comparing an opinion to that vile gif that deserves to be in warning tags BTW

Reinvention

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Originally posted by Planet Mars

Could'ne have said it better myself

In marriage these had to be the sharing of responsibilities but one partner often gets the bulk of them.

You don't have a leader in a relationship.

You're equals. I can't with you.

Wonderland

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Originally posted by Planet Mars

In marriage these had to be the sharing of responsibilities but one partner often gets the bulk of them.

But you're saying this person has to be a man, and that is where people are disagreeing

tshirt

Has the OP ever been in a relationship? Is he even straight?

Wonderland

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Originally posted by J03Y

this is a matter of religious principles. according to the religion, the man is the head of the house. if you're not Christian you don't do this

I come from a Christian family and my father has always said that mum has equal power and influence over everything. So don't try and generalise these principles across all religious households

J03Y

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Originally posted by Vin

Ah. Well, if it's in The Bible, then...

...Vin

As long as you're not making blind and ignorant out-of-context interpretations, then yes, if it's in the Bible

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Originally posted by Dinosauer

You don't have a leader in a relationship.

You're equals. I can't with you.

are you not going to acknowledge my post then?

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Originally posted by Wonderland

But you're saying this person has to be a man, and that is where people are disagreeing

i said this before, it's a matter of religious principles

Planet Mars

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Originally posted by tshirt

Has the OP ever been in a relationship? Is he even straight?

Personal attacks now, thats what its come to....

Mikeymoonshine

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Originally posted by J03Y

that's really sad

But informative, it may not be hard evidence but it's allot better than anything the OP has provided. I think we can safely say the divorce rate is probably not down to women making decisions. So the whole basis of this thread is wrong.

J03Y

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Originally posted by Wonderland

I come from a Christian family and my father has always said that mum has equal power and influence over everything. So don't try and generalise these principles across all religious households

religious principles. last i checked principles are not one specific thing.

and as mentioned before: you can be equal but still have a leader.

your mother has equal say and influence, but your dad still makes the final decision. they just work together and he makes his decisions based on what they both think. that's the kind of relationship i'm talking about.

Javan

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Originally posted by J03Y

that's really sad

this is a matter of religious principles. according to the religion, the man is the head of the house. if you're not Christian you don't do this

The divorce rate among Christian has nothing to do with their principles with in the marriage, Christians tend to get married younger as it there is more pressure on marriage and more pressure on marriage before sex thus there are more failed marriages.

J03Y

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Originally posted by tshirt

Has the OP ever been in a relationship? Is he even straight?

very mature. nice. i feel like you really won this argument. close the thread, gurls. tshirt has proven to be the best debater on this forum.

tshirt

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Originally posted by Planet Mars

Personal attacks now, thats what its come to....

It's not a personal attack to question whether someone who holds such strong views on heterosexual marriage is straight, and has ever been in a relationship, so we can determine whether he's actually drawing on experience or just talking out his shoe.

Mikeymoonshine

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Originally posted by J03Y

As long as you're not making blind and ignorant out-of-context interpretations, then yes, if it's in the Bible

Have you ever actually read the bible? There are allot of crazy, awful things written in there that really can't be taken in any other context. Like the part where it specifically details how to get around having to free your slaves, what other context is there?

J03Y

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Originally posted by Javan

The divorce rate among Christian has nothing to do with their principles with in the marriage, Christians tend to get married younger as it there is more pressure on marriage and more pressure on marriage before sex thus there are more failed marriages.

that wasn't exactly what i meant. i meant on the topic of having a leader in a relationship, that's a matter of religious principles. i'm not doubting that is a big reason for divorces (which it is).

Planet Mars

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Originally posted by tshirt

It's not a personal attack to question whether someone who holds such strong views on heterosexual marriage is straight, and has ever been in a relationship so we know whether he's actually drawing on experience or just talking out his shoe.

No, i've never been married, seeing as thats the relationship being didcussed here

Im basing my argument on the marriages around me, particularly my parents, who have been happily married for 20 years

MusicTalker

Not at all.

GlitterBitch

I think the person who should be the head of the house is what the couple and family feel most comfortable and at ease with. Some women are very naturally dominant and the same can definitely be said of a lot of men. I personally am a dominant woman and don't care for marriage. Also, there a lots of men out there who like dominant women. Primadonnas we have just got to find the right one

. But of course relationships should be as equal as possible and I guess a different person will make a decision based on the scenario and expertise. However, I fail to see the logic in this ''I'm the man you must do what I say as it's in the bible'' attitude.