Originally posted by jinzo

Well let's see¿

- Both involve a potentially vigorous physical movement
- Both do not elicit any kind of visible distress from the animal
- Both do not show the animal making any noise to express pain or irritation
- Both could be regarded as something the animal would not necessarily consent to have done to them

I'm failing to see the "abuse"¿

Someone please point me to it¿

Shall we create a thread in Celebria for every 4 year old girl that rocks their doggy up and down¿

Shall we create a thread in Celebria each time a mother animal in the animal kingdom chastises their offspring¿

Originally posted by Dark_Lorde

You're 100 percent correct. All feelings about gaga aside. Watching this made me cringe.

:/ take the dog away from her

Originally posted by Dark_Lorde

Only one is an area that doesn't hurt the dog when picked up as per their breed. The scruff of the neck is how animals pick their babies up. It's "designed" not to hurt.

Any person that's an animal lover cringes watching this video. It may not have hurt the puppy but there's a potential to hurt the puppy. The way she's throwing it around - the potential is there for her to drop it. It's the risk that makes you Cringe. It's irresponsible behavior, she's clearly partying - probably high

Originally posted by Sam Jay

Originally posted by BadKidBrodie

I love animals and I didn't.. mainly because I have some common sense and i'm not completely delusional

Originally posted by Homogenic

Originally posted by Dark_Lorde

That's a matter of opinion. I think you are. I think you hold that opinion because you're delusional about lady gaga.

We could ask PETA what they think.

Originally posted by BadKidBrodie

YELLING at how delusional you are. The only reason you're even bringing up this an "animal abuse" is because you're a Madonna stan. It's a two way street sis.

Originally posted by Dark_Lorde

Only one is an area that doesn't hurt the dog when picked up as per their breed. The scruff of the neck is how animals pick their babies up. It's "designed" not to hurt.

Any person that's an animal lover cringes watching this video. It may not have hurt the puppy but there's a potential to hurt the puppy. The way she's throwing it around - the potential is there for her to drop it. It's the risk that makes you Cringe. It's irresponsible behavior, she's clearly partying - probably high

Originally posted by Dark_Lorde

Is say the same if Madonnna, did it.

Originally posted by jinzo

Are you saying that every man woman or child that plays with their dog is on drugs?

I think we should expose these cocaine fuelled demons one by one by creating a thread in Celebria for each of their heinous crimes!

Originally posted by Dark_Lorde

Not at all. I'm saying that when gaga parties it's likely she's on drugs as per her own admissions.

I think in that case, she should stay away from animals