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Discussion: Who will outsell Born This Way ?
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Originally posted by Ash12345
BTW sold 6m what are you guys talking about
TTAL has passed it
Red has passed it
UJ has passed it
21 has passed it
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No. And 21 was released before BTW. TTAL, Red and UJ are all above 6M and they should outsell BTW in the next few months but they still haven't. That's why I made this thread. To ask you guys who WILL.
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Originally posted by jomarr
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I can do the same thing with even more reliable sources :
"As of October, worldwide sales had surpassed 8 million copies."
http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...er-of-the-year
" The success of the album naturally paved the way for her second studio album, Born This Way, which has sold more than 8 million copies worldwide since its May release."
http://www.ibtimes.com/lady-gaga-bio...-photos-321470
And many, many more.
Coldplay's Mylo Xyoloto :
US : 1,700,000
UK : 1,384,100
Germany : 300,000
France : 300,000
Canada : 240,000
Australia : 140,000
Gaga's Born This Way
US : 2,320,000 (620,000 more than Coldplay)
UK : 970,000 (400,000 less than Coldplay)
Germany : 200,000 (100,000 less than Coldplay)
France : 200,000 (100,000 less than Coldplay)
Canada : 320,000 (80,000 more than Coldplay)
Australia : 140,000 (same as Coldplay)
Based on just those 6 countries :
Born This Way : 4,150,000
Mylo Xyloto : 4,064,000
See, I didn't even post Japan where Born This Way sold over 800,000 copies, while Mylo Xyloto isn't even Gold (100,000).
Of course BTW sold more!
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Originally posted by jomarr
And if we're going by Mediatraffic,
Coldplay - Mylo Xyloto = 5.5 Million Copies
Lady Gaga - Born This Way = 5.4 Million Copies
Please. How in hell did Gaga surpass Coldplay's sales when she's not even in the Top 50 Albums of 2012?
Coldplay charted in 2011 with 3.3 Million Copies sold
Gaga charted in 2011 with 5.4 Million Copies sold
Coldplay charted in 2011 with 2.2 Million Copies sold
Gaga was nowhere to be found.
BYE!
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According to MediaTraffic :
2011 :
BTW : 5,400,000
Coldplay : 3,300,000
2012 :
BTW : 400,000 - that's how much it sold in January & February if you go week by week on MediaTraffic) + at least another 100,000 copies in the remaining 10 months of 2012. You can't possibly say she failed to do it with her sold out WW tour 
Coldplay : 2,200,000
Total :
BTW : 5,900,000
Coldplay : 5,500,000
That's just for 2011 and 2012. We don't know sales from 2013.
Now check out my post above with all the sales. There is no way Coldplay's album outsold BTW !
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Oh wow, I didn't realize this. Remember when people tried so hard to call it a flop?
I think only Adele has the power to do it, and she can do it in one country alone.
Overall declining sales are just a bitch for artists to deal with. 
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Originally posted by 2014
 All those albums were released BEFORE BTW. Read the OP again.
I can do the same thing with even more reliable sources :
"As of October, worldwide sales had surpassed 8 million copies."
http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...er-of-the-year
" The success of the album naturally paved the way for her second studio album, Born This Way, which has sold more than 8 million copies worldwide since its May release."
http://www.ibtimes.com/lady-gaga-bio...-photos-321470
And many, many more.
Coldplay's Mylo Xyoloto :
US : 1,700,000
UK : 1,384,100
Germany : 300,000
France : 300,000
Canada : 240,000
Australia : 140,000
Gaga's Born This Way
US : 2,320,000 (620,000 more than Coldplay)
UK : 970,000 (400,000 less than Coldplay)
Germany : 200,000 (100,000 less than Coldplay)
France : 200,000 (100,000 less than Coldplay)
Canada : 320,000 (80,000 more than Coldplay)
Australia : 140,000 (same as Coldplay)
Based on just those 6 countries :
Born This Way : 4,150,000
Mylo Xyloto : 4,064,000
See, I didn't even post Japan where Born This Way sold over 800,000 copies, while Mylo Xyloto isn't even Gold (100,000).
Of course BTW sold more! |
No, Born This Way sold LESS. What are those Flokipedia receipts though? 
Okay let's do this, bitch.
Australia:
Mylo Xyloto (2X Platinum)
Born this Way (2X Platinum)
Belgium
Mylo Xyloto (Platinum)
Born This Way (Platinum)
Canada
Mylo Xyloto (3X Platinum)
Born This Way (4X Platinum)
Denmark
Mylo Xyloto (2X Platinum)
Born This Way (Gold)
France
Mylo Xyloto (3X Platinum)
Born This Way (2X Platinum)
Germany
Mylo Xyloto (3X Gold)*
Born This Way (Platinum)
*Mylo Xyloto received Platinum certification and surpassed another Gold Certification thus making the Certification 3X Gold.
For more info: http://www.musikindustrie.de
Ireland
Mylo Xyloto (2X Platinum)
Born This Way (2X Platinum)
Italy
Mylo Xyloto (3X Platinum)
Born This Way (Platinum)
Mexico
Mylo Xyloto (Platinum)
Born This Way (Platinum)
Spain
Mylo Xyloto (Platinum)
Born This Way (Gold)
UK
Mylo Xyloto (4X Platinum)
Born This Way (3X Platinum)
US
Mylo Xyloto (Platinum)
Born This Way (2X Platinum)
There you have it heaxz.
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Originally posted by 2014
Most of ATRL agrees (  ) it sold 6.5M WW , and not 8M. |
BTW sold 6mil by the end of 2011. You can't just cite a number from 2011 and expect to be right forever lolz
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Not surprised the same ol', same ol' still can't accept the slayage that was Born This Way. Keeping people seething three years later. 
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Originally posted by Leon
BTW sold 6mil by the end of 2011. You can't just cite a number from 2011 and expect to be right forever lolz
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but sis , this thread is already a mess with that number. Imagine how would the haters react if I said it sold 7.5M or 8M
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Originally posted by Bang Up
Not surprised the same ol', same ol' still can't accept the slayage that was Born This Way. Keeping people seething three years later. |
BTW was a slayage but a slayage at 6m
Monsters need to accept it and move on
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Originally posted by 2014
No. And 21 was released before BTW. TTAL, Red and UJ are all above 6M and they should outsell BTW in the next few months but they still haven't. That's why I made this thread. To ask you guys who WILL.
I can do the same thing with even more reliable sources :
"As of October, worldwide sales had surpassed 8 million copies."
http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...er-of-the-year
" The success of the album naturally paved the way for her second studio album, Born This Way, which has sold more than 8 million copies worldwide since its May release."
http://www.ibtimes.com/lady-gaga-bio...-photos-321470
And many, many more.
Coldplay's Mylo Xyoloto :
US : 1,700,000
UK : 1,384,100
Germany : 300,000
France : 300,000
Canada : 240,000
Australia : 140,000
Gaga's Born This Way
US : 2,320,000 (620,000 more than Coldplay)
UK : 970,000 (400,000 less than Coldplay)
Germany : 200,000 (100,000 less than Coldplay)
France : 200,000 (100,000 less than Coldplay)
Canada : 320,000 (80,000 more than Coldplay)
Australia : 140,000 (same as Coldplay)
Based on just those 6 countries :
Born This Way : 4,150,000
Mylo Xyloto : 4,064,000
See, I didn't even post Japan where Born This Way sold over 800,000 copies, while Mylo Xyloto isn't even Gold (100,000).
Of course BTW sold more! |
Yes 21 was released afterwards but it sold more than 21 in 2012 alone
But BTW was a massive slayage ahead of many other albums, it just shows how huge gaga was.
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Originally posted by jomarr
No, Born This Way sold LESS. What are those Flokipedia receipts though?
Okay let's do this, bitch.
Australia:
Mylo Xyloto (2X Platinum)
Born this Way (2X Platinum)
Belgium
Mylo Xyloto (Platinum)
Born This Way (Platinum)
Canada
Mylo Xyloto (3X Platinum)
Born This Way (4X Platinum)
Denmark
Mylo Xyloto (2X Platinum)
Born This Way (Gold)
France
Mylo Xyloto (3X Platinum)
Born This Way (2X Platinum)
Germany
Mylo Xyloto (3X Gold)*
Born This Way (Platinum)
*Mylo Xyloto received Platinum certification and surpassed another Gold Certification thus making the Certification 3X Gold.
For more info: http://www.musikindustrie.de
Ireland
Mylo Xyloto (2X Platinum)
Born This Way (2X Platinum)
Italy
Mylo Xyloto (3X Platinum)
Born This Way (Platinum)
Mexico
Mylo Xyloto (Platinum)
Born This Way (Platinum)
Spain
Mylo Xyloto (Platinum)
Born This Way (Gold)
UK
Mylo Xyloto (4X Platinum)
Born This Way (3X Platinum)
US
Mylo Xyloto (Platinum)
Born This Way (2X Platinum)
There you have it heaxz. |
Born This Way sold 600,000 more in the US and around 700,000 more in Japan. That's 1,400,000 more copies. And you say those countries make up for it?
NO. Put that in numbers! And you choose Ireland,Belgium, Spain?! Where are all the big countries like Japan, Brazil - one of the biggest music markets in the wolrd (in the top 10).
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6,800,000 copies WW - Op
As of October, worldwide sales had surpassed 8 million copies - BIllboard article December 19, 2011 7:13 PM EST
Lady GaGa - Born This Way Interscope - 5,4 million copies - MEDIATRAFFIC year end 2011
Ehmm... 
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Originally posted by Ash12345
Yes 21 was released afterwards but it sold more than 21 in 2012 alone
But BTW was a massive slayage ahead of many other albums, it just shows how huge gaga was. |
yes sis, we all know that. But 21 was released before BTW and I said in the OP, that zero albums released AFTER BTW managed to outsell it.
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Originally posted by 2014
Born This Way sold 600,000 more in the US and around 700,000 more in Japan. That's 1,400,000 more copies. And you say those countries make up for it?
NO. Put that in numbers! And you choose Ireland,Belgium, Spain?! Where are all the big countries like Japan, Brazil - one of the biggest music markets in the wolrd (in the top 10).
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Born This Way sold 500K more in the US and 600K more in Japan. 1.1 Million. Get your numbers straight
and in Europe, Born This Way went Platinum while Mylo Xyloto went 3X Platinum,
That's 2 Million unaccounted for for Born This Way.
I'm sorry but just face the fact that MX outsold BTW.
1.1 Million on US and Japan for BTW over MX
2 Million on Europe for MX over BTW
= +900K for MX.
Let's say that maybe I was overestimated MX, it still outsold BTW by over TWICE BTW's European sales.
Europe>>>Japan and the US
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Born This Way sold 8 million, according to Interscope and Billboard.
Idk how many times people have to be told that mediatraffic is 31 countries only and is based on reports and estimations.
Check the mediatraffic site, it states that it's unofficial.
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Originally posted by jomarr
Born This Way sold 500K more in the US and 600K more in Japan. 1.1 Million.
and in Europe, Born This Way went Platinum while Mylo Xyloto went 3X Platinum,
That's 2 Million unaccounted for for Born This Way.
I'm sorry but just face the fact that MX outsold BTW.
1.4 Million on US and Japan for BTW over MX
2 Million on Europe for MX over BTW
= +600K for MX.
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But that's a certification for Europe. BTW sold 1,800,000 copies in Europe!
BTW sold 1.4M more in US & Japan, and MX sold 1.2M more in Europe.
BTW wins.
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Not LMs using that bilboard source, BB know **** about WW sales
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Originally posted by J a y
Born This Way sold 8 million, according to Interscope and Billboard.
Idk how many times people have to be told that mediatraffic is 31 countries only and is based on reports and estimations.
Check the mediatraffic site, it states that it's unofficial.
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Educate us. 
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Originally posted by 2014
But that's a certification for Europe. BTW sold 1,800,000 copies in Europe!
BTW sold 1.4M more in US & Japan, and MX sold 1.2M more in Europe.
BTW wins.
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I'm sorry but your MATH is off.
ESTIMATES:
Japan
Born This Way = 750K
MX = 150K
= 600K difference
US
BTW = 2.2M
MX = 1.7
= 500K difference
= 1,100,000
EUROPE
BTW = 1.8 Million? Is this real anyways let's use this
MX = 3 Million
= 1,200,000
100K MORE for Mylo Xyloto and I didn't even BLOAT those sales, just flat out 3M because of the 3X Certification. I'm pretty sure MX is at 3.5M in Europe now but whatevs. 3M and it still wins
Poor that.
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Official certification puts BTW at AROUND 6 million sold. 8 million units SHIPPED.
Doesn't matter. The most over-hyped act in 2011 with a $25 million marketing budget and a .99 cent album stalled at 6 million and was steamrolled into obscurity by Adele's 21. That's the true tea.
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Considering that BTW shipped 5,9M copies in 2011 I really doubt that it sold much more than 6M  So probably some albums already outsold it.
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