But when does her contract end ?
I mean, when it ends, she could easily create a label and release whatever she wants, right?
The power of her name alone would help her sales and promotion.
I don't think the problem is the label. I think the problem is her team. As long as Adam and Larry's there, we wouldn't be getting change in here.
But to answer your question, Britney Jean is basically her last contractually obligated album on RCA. Unless her team renews her contract with RCA.
Britney doesn't care at this point and time, sadly. Her kids are her biggest priority now and I fully understand.
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Most of them already have though. When the famed "Britmas" online leak-fest happened a couple of years ago, a nice chunk of supposed OD tracks leaked.
Those weren't really Original Doll tracks. Those are mostly In the Zone rejects. Even Money Love and Happiness was recorded for In the Zone.
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What a cringeworthy, obviously-stan-written article
Mona Lisa and Someday (I Will Understand) are both kinda boring, the albums after and before were probably better than what Original Doll would've been.
Boring production wise yes. But there's so much more in the lyrical content.
Original Doll should've been THE album that would have defined Britney back in 2005 when all the **** were starting.
Basically, Mona Lisa and the 30 second Rebellion clip are mysterious enough for the lost album to be talked about 10 years later. Also, Michael always stated his love of Britney, even in his final days. He knew what was happening to Britney and he cared so much. He couldn't do anything because he is basically undergoing the same **** she's been going through during the time.
Madonna obviously cares about Britney as well but not as much as Michael. If I get those videos I will post them.
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The following leaked over a year and a half span or so. A lot of them are from the OD/pre-Blackout era, but some are from Circus, ITZ and Britney:
Abroad (Circus era)
Dangerous
Dramatic (Solo Version)
Every Day
Look Who's Talking Now
Love 2 Love U
Mad Love
Money, Love & Happiness
Ouch
Pleasure You (w/Don Philip)
Rockstar (ITZ era)
Strangest Love
(Tell Me) Am I A Sinner
Telephone
This Kiss (Circus era)
When I Say So (Britney era)
911
These actually make up about half of her leaked tracks over the least 5-7 years or so.
Not even close. Circus alone had 30 unreleased songs.
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That doesn't even matter to most stans. It would have been amazing to see Britney create something that she wanted to do. And if it flopped at least it was on her own doing. Unlike BJ that isn't Britney at all, and was completely in the hands of her label
Wether it was successful or not, the outcome wouldn't have mattered because for the first time in her career, she would have put out something that was solely Britney.
Exactly. I do not agree with Britney Jean not being Britney at all though. I think it's about her but again it was toned down.
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Reading the article, I got ****ing mad when I thought about the unreleased tracks and how they can cash on Britney when (knocks on wood) she passes away. The ****ing greed on the music industry disgusts me.
I believe she already had recorded like 7 or 8 tracks on Original Doll and being a project her label was unaware of, it was cancelled but the tracks still lies either with her or with the couple of producers she worked with back then.
As for Rebellion, I'm not sure if it was recorded fully but I believe parts of the song other than the 30 second loop on her website back then exists.
I don't really know what to think about this. I'd rather her burn all of those songs than her label milking her.
I hope WHEN the C-ship finally makes its exit, she regains the rights to the songs and save it for her. Unlikely but yeah, it would be a smart move.
If she wont say a word, I'd rather not hear the whole story than her team and label do it for her. **** them all.
Not even close. Circus alone had 30 unreleased songs.
But did they leak though? I have all of her unreleased/demo/leaked tracks from the last 15 years, and Circus-era tracks that leaked were minimal. There may be a ton of unreleased songs, but there were not 30 that leaked. FF had over 50 tracks recorded for it, but there certainly weren't 50 leaks. Blackout probably had the most that leaked of any one album, demo-wise.
Honestly, these kind of articles are only a bait so people can lash out at current Britney, once again.
What's interesting though is that Britney's most criticized albums (Britney & Britney Jean) come the closest to being personal records while the fan favourites (In The Zone & Blackout) are the ones that underwent complete makeover. Just look at the face she's making in that japanese interview... She seems "thrilled", to say the least, to have been obliged to work with so many different producers and having all that she had worked hard on with Michelle Bell being thrown in the toilet!
I don"t really know where to stand for FF but I don't think they would have ever gone for something different than what they released given the pop-dance domination of 2011 and the fact that Spears has become allergic to the promo circuit.
The Original Doll probably wouldn't have changed people's perception about her. Let's be real for a second, this extraordinary girl has always been disrespected and taken for granted even during her 1999-2001 golden age. A "confessional" album wouldn't have changed anything and would have surely been received as warmly as the poor BJ was...
People don't have any perspective about Britney at all. It seems people have sadistically changed the past to make the present seems worse. Many things that are praised now were heavily criticized at the times, such as the VMA's 2003, In The Zone, The Onyx Hotel Tour and Blackout (It made the Paris album pass for an unplugged album according to a critic and was voted worst album of the year by NME)... To conclude, you also have to remember how badly perceived pure pop music was perceived in the 90s, where grunge, rock, r'n'b and AC gave you the bragging rights for artistic credibility. Britney was the antithesis of all of that and she was was the female leader of the teen pop movement so she got all the criticisms, insults and media abuse along with the glory.
There's a Madonna's article from ELLE (2001) that sums up pretty well what Britney's peak was really like:
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[...] "Can I just say," Madonna says after the two businessmen, almost mad with glee, leave the room, "that I find it really irritating that everyone beats up on Britney Spears. I want to do nothing but support her and praise her and wish her the best. I mean, she’s eighteen years old! It’s just shocking. I wish I’d had my sh-t together when I was eighteen. I was so gawky and geeky and awkward and unsure of myself. I didn’t have a tan! I didn’t know how to dress! (Now you tell us, after we ran around covered in convent-loads of rosaries.)
Honestly, these kind of articles are only a bait so people can lash out at current Britney, once again.
What's interesting though is that Britney's most criticized albums (Britney & Britney Jean) come the closest to being personal records while the fan favourites (In The Zone & Blackout) are the ones that underwent complete makeover. Just look at the face she's making in that japanese interview... She seems "thrilled", to say the least, to have been obliged to work with so many different producers and having all that she had worked hard on with Michelle Bell being thrown in the toilet!
I don"t really know where to stand for FF but I don't think they would have ever gone for something different than what they released given the pop-dance domination of 2011 and the fact that Spears has become allergic to the promo circuit.
The Original Doll probably wouldn't have changed people's perception about her. Let's be real for a second, this extraordinary girl has always been disrespected and taken for granted even during her 1999-2001 golden age. A "confessional" album wouldn't have changed anything and would have surely been received as warmly as the poor BJ was...
People don't have any perspective about Britney at all. It seems people have sadistically changed the past to make the present seems worse. Many things that are praised now were heavily criticized at the times, such as the VMA's 2003, In The Zone, The Onyx Hotel Tour and Blackout (It made the Paris album pass for an unplugged album according to a critic and was voted worst album of the year by NME)... To conclude, you also have to remember how badly perceived pure pop music was perceived in the 90s, where grunge, rock, r'n'b and AC gave you the bragging rights for artistic credibility. Britney was the antithesis of all of that and she was was the female leader of the teen pop movement so she got all the criticisms, insults and media abuse along with the glory.
There's a Madonna's article from ELLE (2001) that sums up pretty well what Britney's peak was really like:
I do agree with the points you have here about Original Doll -- I don't think it would have done anything different for her, since it was pre-Blackout and I think Blackout did a lot for her pop legacy just fine. However, I disagree that these articles are written to bait people to **** on the current state of Britney. If anything, I think it's really informative for people who may be younger and know nothing of the Britney that some of us knew who was very much into talking about her work, and would be goofy in interviews and who -- for a while -- was very engaged in her career. A lot of post-Circus fans would probably be shocked to hear her talk so in depth about her music, like she used to circa ITZ and pre-breakdown.
I also disagree that Britney and Britney Jean are her most "personal" albums. Around the time of the Britney era, there was so much talk of the album incorporating trip-hop and trance, and she worked with BT and other dance producers, but ultimately that direction got scrapped (with only 1 BT track making the cut as a EU bonus track). That album was definitely overhauled to suit the more urban-pop/sexy direction she was heading in, sometimes seemingly against her comfort level (see: IAS4U's Making the Video episode). Britney Jean, which was an attempt on her team's part to present her work as "personal" again, was riddled with mediocre lyrical content, controversy over how much she was actually involved in the recording process and continued apparent distance during promo interviews. She said the word "personal" a million times this era, but nothing even really translated as such on the album (although it does have songs I love, including Perfume, Alien and Passenger). Honestly, I think ITZ was her most engaged era. She really poured herself into the process of making that album and seemed to connect with the songs, her performances and the promo for it. If an argument was to be made for her "most personal" album/era, I'd say that's it, if for no other reason that it contained tracks like "Everytime", "Showdown", and "Early Mornin'", which I think were quite reflective of her post-Justin life. If you were following her during that era, you could tell she was 100% in it.
If anything articles like this are sad to read, yes -- although I do think they are overstating how much her brief recording sessions for OD would have changed pop music. Honestly, be it mid-breakdown or not, Blackout was sonically one of her most adventurous albums, as was ITZ. The demos and sessions with Michelle may have come from a more personally involved place in regard to her career, but I don't think that sonically any of them were anything that special when compared to her best albums (at least judging from what has leaked). Ultimately, I do think her team is pressing her currently to do a lot of things that she may not necessarily have her heart in anymore, but I don't think she is ruined. I think a break from the industry would do her good, and I can imagine that will happen after this era since her contract is up. At least for her own happiness, I'd hope so.
alright, so why can't she just put the record out now on twitter, itunes, instagram etc? even for free? if she just wanted her fans & people to hear it.. it was difficult in those days but now she can
She kinda does have a lot of fight. When she was doing the Original Doll, she was basically the face and center point of a billion dollar universe that revolved around her. Tours, music, toys, books, magazines, etc, thousands of jobs depended on her success. She still went out and tried to make the album she wanted to make.
When she realized that there were too many people telling her no, she basically rebelled by marrying Kevin, stopping her tour, releasing Chaotic ( ), and being a trashy mess in public. Before 2004, Britney was almost always in full makeup and styled to the heavens just like all the other pop girls.
I've actually never heard of Original Doll or Mona Lisa before peeking into this thread. I always forget about how much talent and promise Britney had pre-meltdown. Had Original Doll been released and Britney was given the freedom she craved, things could have turned out SO much differently for her.
fantastic article, but i always get so sad reading about this album's background. people will never know how talented she really is because her team has always manufactured her into what they want her to be
there are so many 'what if's that go along with this and it's crazy to think how different her career and possibly her entire life would be if her team let loose of the reins a bit
I also disagree that Britney and Britney Jean are her most "personal" albums. Around the time of the Britney era, there was so much talk of the album incorporating trip-hop and trance, and she worked with BT and other dance producers, but ultimately that direction got scrapped (with only 1 BT track making the cut as a EU bonus track). That album was definitely overhauled to suit the more urban-pop/sexy direction she was heading in, sometimes seemingly against her comfort level (see: IAS4U's Making the Video episode). Britney Jean, which was an attempt on her team's part to present her work as "personal" again, was riddled with mediocre lyrical content, controversy over how much she was actually involved in the recording process and continued apparent distance during promo interviews. She said the word "personal" a million times this era, but nothing even really translated as such on the album (although it does have songs I love, including Perfume, Alien and Passenger). Honestly, I think ITZ was her most engaged era. She really poured herself into the process of making that album and seemed to connect with the songs, her performances and the promo for it. If an argument was to be made for her "most personal" album/era, I'd say that's it, if for no other reason that it contained tracks like "Everytime", "Showdown", and "Early Mornin'", which I think were quite reflective of her post-Justin life. If you were following her during that era, you could tell she was 100% in it.
She doesn't have any albums that are 100% her. They're all riding on a brand and an image (especially In The Zone) but I think out of all her albums, Britney and Britney Jean are the closest to what the real Britney, the shy & misunderstood popstar, is.
All the songs can relate to her, in one way or another, (except for "Tik Tik Boom" & "Body Ache"). She rarely has ever sang with as much passion and heart than in "Perfume" in more than ten years and the "too long" verses, something seen in the co-written unreleased "Everyday", convinced me that she was involved in the writing of it. Then you have, "Alien" which is probably her most revealing song about her celebrity. And "Chillin Wit U", "Don't Cry", "Till It's Gone" and "Hold On Tight", all equally interesting and different IMO.
On the question of her interviews, I think she did a good job for most of them especially the radio ones (she would have never dared question the director's decisions about sexual controversy she felt uncomfortable with in her previous eras!) but the documentary was just the icing on the cake and showed a down to earth, lively, quirky and endearing young woman unlike any of her peers.
You wrote good arguments about "In The Zone", but I'm still convinced she was already tired of playing the game at that time, you can see it in many interviews and it is all the more confirmed by the 55 hours mariage and what she said about that period in both Chaotic and For The Record ("It had been five years and I wanted it all to stop"). The only thing she was really into at that time, were her TV performances, which represent her peak along with the Britney ones, and her videos. Finally, you also said she was engaged in her songs but it's a given since Britney is always in it in the recording studio (whether she really enjoys all the material is another debate), except for most of Circus and some songs on FF.
), and being a trashy mess in public. Before 2004, Britney was almost always in full makeup and styled to the heavens just like all the other pop girls.