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Discussion: Are Katy and Rih the Last Girls Standing?
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Originally posted by dposton
PIU sold more than DIL 
Rihanna sold 18 million singles and 3.5 million albums without 17 videos. |
Hopefully you aren't referring to Pour It Up because it definitely didn't sell more than Drunk in Love. 
& that's cute. I loved all of her lackluster performances at every awards show to get those sells.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by HumanitySector
the FACT is my fave outsold Bey's record numbers during beginning of Loud 4 years ago. But Ok  |
OK girl, but you realise that in 20 years nobody will care about Loud's sales, but Beyonce will still be seen as iconic?
These girls, their sight is so short. Never looking at the bigger picture. That will be their undoing.
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Member Since: 12/21/2011
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
OK girl, but you realise that in 20 years nobody will care about Loud's sales, but Beyonce will still be seen as iconic?
These girls, their sight is so short. Never looking at the bigger picture. That will be their undoing.
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okay I cackled at the last part
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Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
OK girl, but you realise that in 20 years nobody will care about Loud's sales, but Beyonce will still be seen as iconic?
These girls, their sight is so short. Never looking at the bigger picture. That will be their undoing.
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What kind of argument is this? 
You're basically saying that people won't care about Rihanna because it's Rihanna and Beyoncé is Beyoncé. Like, wut.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by ABEL-o-matic
Outsold by how much though? It's not like it outsold them both by 5M copies, not even 2M.
So it doesn't matter if it outsold or matched Rihanna's last two albums, because 500k copies is barely outselling. Adele is the prime example of outselling Rihanna, not Beyonce. And singles, there's not a single question.
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Not when her last 2 albums barely scanned a million in America, even with all the heavy promo and #1 hit songs, compare to 4(1.4M) that had no hit songs on pop radio.
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Member Since: 11/13/2009
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We're in a transition period. New artists are going to rise up. Lorde, Ellie Goulding, and Rita Ora, for example, already have. I would put money on Lana Del Rey, Wynter Gordon, and Foxes joining them. Tinashe could be a future crossover girl.
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Member Since: 12/21/2011
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Originally posted by JustActinUP
Not when her last 2 albums barely scanned a million in America, even with all the heavy promo and #1 hit songs, compare to 4(1.4M) that had no hit songs on pop radio.
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WW > US
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
What kind of argument is this?
You're basically saying that people won't care about Rihanna because it's Rihanna and Beyoncé is Beyoncé. Like, wut. |
Beyonce is iconic and is easily the most respected female in this business. Everyone knows it, from K Michelle to Katy Perry. Nobody attempts to shade her and if they do, their career conveniently becomes null & void.
Rihanna is... Rihanna. There's been plenty of Rihanna's over the last couple of decades and there will continue to be. She has bops and some memorable moments, but she's replaceable. All another girl needs is her stylist, her hot producers and a lucky break in the form of Umbrella and they can become Rihanna too.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by leo-j
Applause was a huge hit
You and I was a hit
The edge of glory was a huge hit
Do what you want was a hit
GUY is still running
Marry the night is the only one that wasn't really hit in the U.S
Born was was a smash(bigger song than any song by most pop stars 9 M + WW record sales)
Judas was a hit outside of the U.S and it still was top 10 in the U.S and is more than likely at platinum in the U.S
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
What kind of argument is this?
You're basically saying that people won't care about Rihanna because it's Rihanna and Beyoncé is Beyoncé. Like, wut. |
What's hard to understand about that?
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this thread is so dumb
you can dislike bey but to say she's no longer "standing" makes no sense
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Member Since: 12/21/2011
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Rihanna is... Rihanna. There's been plenty of Rihanna's over the last couple of decades and there will continue to be. She has bops and some memorable moments, but she's replaceable. All another girl needs is her stylist, her hot producers and a lucky break in the form of Umbrella and they can become Rihanna too.
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People have been saying this thing since Rated R... Some people never learn huh?
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Beyonce is iconic and is easily the most respected female in this business. Everyone knows it, from K Michelle to Katy Perry. Nobody attempts to shade her and if they do, their career conveniently becomes null & void.
Rihanna is... Rihanna. There's been plenty of Rihanna's over the last couple of decades and there will continue to be. She has bops and some memorable moments, but she's replaceable. All another girl needs is her stylist, her hot producers and a lucky break in the form of Umbrella and they can become Rihanna too.
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You completely contradicted yourself.
You were right about that rihanna is rihanna, the rest your way off.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by HumanitySector
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Oh an opinion.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by HumanitySector
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Excuses for those who can't sell well in the biggest music market.
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Originally posted by leo-j
Applause was a huge hit
You and I was a hit
The edge of glory was a huge hit
Do what you want was a hit
GUY is still running
Marry the night is the only one that wasn't really hit in the U.S
Born was was a smash(bigger song than any song by most pop stars 9 M + WW record sales)
Judas was a hit outside of the U.S and it still was top 10 in the U.S and is more than likely at platinum in the U.S
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Receipts or your statement is invalid. You need proofs to be able to claim a song is a hit not just by opinions on what you think is a hit or not
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Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Originally posted by suneclipse121
What's hard to understand about that?
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If you put it like that, well, everything.
He could've cited Beyoncé's long career, status as a celebrity, collaborations with other musicians, pre solo work, fashion, voice talent.....so much he could've said but instead he just says Beyoncé will be remembered just by being Beyoncé.
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Beyonce is iconic and is easily the most respected female in this business. Everyone knows it, from K Michelle to Katy Perry. Nobody attempts to shade her and if they do, their career conveniently becomes null & void.
Rihanna is... Rihanna. There's been plenty of Rihanna's over the last couple of decades and there will continue to be. She has bops and some memorable moments, but she's replaceable. All another girl needs is her stylist, her hot producers and a lucky break in the form of Umbrella and they can become Rihanna too.
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That's the problem with some of you, y'all still think Rihanna won't last long, but she's still here. 9 years in the industry, and she's not going nowhere.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Beyonce is iconic and is easily the most respected female in this business. Everyone knows it, from K Michelle to Katy Perry. Nobody attempts to shade her and if they do, their career conveniently becomes null & void.
Rihanna is... Rihanna. There's been plenty of Rihanna's over the last couple of decades and there will continue to be. She has bops and some memorable moments, but she's replaceable. All another girl needs is her stylist, her hot producers and a lucky break in the form of Umbrella and they can become Rihanna too.
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 Its been 9 years, we're still waiting
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